podcast, to try to impress -- >> is that the only reason that they got caught? >> other people are almost certainly still doing this. it is really not complicated. like slot machine basically. so it is still happening. again, turn this on. amazon doesn't really want to tell you how to do this because it would blow up this pr nightmare that they already have. so please do it. >> i just want to confirm, how hard is to track these people who aren't publicizing on a ridiculous podcast? >> yeah, it is complicated. if they are stupid, they are not doing it through the vpn which masks your behavior. if you are stupid, you get caught pretty easily. i don't think that they thought that they would get caught, which is kind of nuts. but there are people who know how to do this in a way that they will never get caught. and so you've got to up your scare a little bit here. >> le coa lcollins, super impor. i'm thinking if my daughter had been targeted like that, i'd be
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