the effects he can have, the damage he can do i believe that ultimately he will be held accountable, an ultimately, that will help quell all of the unrest that comes from his efforts t divide the country >> liz, what about the rest of it there's a criminal referrals which everyone is focusing on, for good reason. they'd like the justic department, or jack smith, o merrick garland to do somethin about it the committee came up with all sorts of other things. one of which is the 14th amendment, they vote the 14t amendment. that becomes a little tricky because he hasn't been convicted of anything yet. lots of people have been convicted of staff we know there was an attempted insurrection the report says this would'v happened without donald trump, he was the cause of it that, again, gets politicized. if congress has to invoke th 14th amendment, politically republican controlled congress the skies and insurrection, as he can hold office i'm not sure i would hold my breath >> right, i think that any