great people come to us so that even greater people can be possible. they exemplify characteristics that we are capable of. we read them, we follow them, we learn from them so that we can be the leaders that we are looking for. >> great people come to us and even greater people can be possible. that is the optimist note on which i will end this discussion because i wanted to sink in and eddie, thank you for being here. a professor of african-american that is it the print university. the author of numerous important books including this one, it is a must read. we are leaders we have been looking for. his is the houseboat the end of tiktok in america? not some details on that, next. boring is the unsung catalyst for bold. what straps bold to a rocket and hurtles it into space? boring does.