and the awful european history that it summons up. >> let me ask you about the politics in europe. joe biden said something very interesting in his meeting with president duda, and he said the ability of the united states to do its job around the world relies upon the stability of europe. what we've seen in europe over the last decade or so is -- you know, a backsliding of democracy in some places in europe. here in poland, in hungary where i was, it almost seems like what has happened in ukraine has reminded europe and european democracies about what's important at this point. the ideological discussions seem to have fallen aside at least for a moment with most of these countries because they understand an eternal threat has to be dealt with. >> i think you are making a vital point here. we know president putin is trying to rewind the