ali? >> kelly, our schedules don't allow us to talk as much as we used to, but i now know my viewers understand why i would never do this with anybody, but you. your depth of experience in covering these things provides some important context so i appreciate that. you and i will talk again through the course of the next couple of hours. kelly o'donnell is here in warsaw, poland. you are watching a special edition of "velshi." it is just after 2:00 p.m. in poland and 9:00 a.m. in the united states. joining me is the president of the german marshall fund and former assistant secretary of state for europe and eurasian affairs where she co-led the interagency to enlarge nato. it is good to see you. thank you for being with us. you've been tracking this closely for the last few days and when i say this, the meeting that is going on or it has just concluded between president duda and president biden and the nato meeting on thursday and all of the meetings in between.