editor of a new book. and so nicole hannah jones, you have since become a great friend to the show. and you are a lightning rod in america on so many levels. you are the embodiment of the greatest threat to what some people believe american history to be. >> i don't know how to comment to that. but first thank you for having me on the show and for all of your thoughtful reporting and commentary that you do. i have become a symbol both for people who love the work that i'm doing and for people who not only hate the work that i'm doing but really hated this idea that our society was going to have to reckon with the fact that we were founded on ideals of freedom. and these are people who really -- they say that they are patriotic but they don't seem to believe that our country is strong enough to deal with the truth of who we were in the past