like, how am i going to tell other people, hey, get vaccinated, and like, my mom got vaccinated and still got it. and thankfully, because she was vaccinated, it wasn't horrible, it wasn't bad, it was manageable. but it was still hard because i'm the oldest of five siblings, so at that time i was working and took on a mother role because i had to take in my siblings that were in school. it was going to work, being a mom at home, and then -- i work with young children, so i'm a mom at work. it's like, i'm not clocking out, i'm doing this 24/7. >> i will tell you that our city and county leaders have led the effort. we're at 73% double vaccinated in this country. we're just a little bit behind el paso, but close to herd immunity. so there's still more work to do, but again, other cities and other communities of color should be looking at el paso and san antonio to find the pathway forward to get their people of color vaccinated. >> by the way, i went to san