current moment. >> i think there's definitely been progress. because, again, i don't think that -- look at what happened when the cosby allegations happened, or the fox news allegations happened and how those survivors were heard. or the weinstein, you know, allegations, even. i think we have progressed, because survivors have a bigger voice mow. and they're taken more seriously. but really, it's about culture shift. and so we won't see powerful people really be accountable until we shift the culture that says that you can't harass people with impunity. you can't be a powerful person and this is not what leadership looks like, right? when we redefine what a leader is, and that includes people who don't abuse their power, then we will really have a shift. but we've certainly progressed. >> and some of that leadership shift may not happen as effectively with older leaders, but are you satisfied that there's a new generation that understands that this offices, workplaces, leadership and power all looks different going forward? >> i hope so.
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