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MSNBC Up With David Gura September 14, 2019 12:57:00

fun fund, ben rhodes, the author of "the opposite of hate." peter sagel, host of npr's "wait, wait, don't tell me." ben rhodes, let many he start with you. i'm going go to you first. there is a lot of talk. peter baker writing the piece about the possibility of mike pompeo to pull a henry kissinger. that lasted for a while and then things changed. what are the down sides of having somebody that as we understand it has an outside role here influencing the president when it comes to foreign policy? he outshines the defense secretary at this point. what difference would it make if he occupied both roles? >> it's a terrible idea in the sense that the national security adviser is probably the most important job in the government in terms of having to coordinate all the various bodies of national security including the department of state. however, it doesn't really

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