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governor, josh shapiro joins us -- this sunday, just days before the most consequential midterm election in years, the vicious attack on a pelosi's husband are raising fears of political violence. in her first statement since her husband was attacked in their home -- a hammer, attempted to tie him up. and said that they would wait until, quote, nancy got home. to be clear -- they hope it's a final winning message for democrats. joining me now, in an exclusive interview, white house press secretary -- -- something that all of us need to say. it should be done in one voice. sadly, it has become political. we need to end this. this is about the president has said multiple times. he has talked about it in his speeches and other remarks. the thing that is probably most haunting about when we hear of the reports of this assailant, this attacker, that you were speaking of. he was yelling out the things we heard during january six. which is, where is nancy? again, we need to end this type of rhetoric. it needs to stop. it is incredibly, incredibly, dangerous. has the white house reached out to senate minority leader, house minority leader, kevin mccarthy, in an effort to get everyone together and put out a bipartisan condemnation or statement of the political alignment we are in? trying to tamp down the rhetoric? a unified show force against what we are facing? >> even by the president most recently. he believes in reaching out to the other side. that is not anything that is unusual, right? to reach out to the other side. i don't have anything to speak of any speech man and a bipartisan statement. the president himself has been very clear you all talked about the soul of the nation the reason why this president ran for president again in the first place just a couple of years ago, to attack against democracy we still have people out there undermining that, undermining our free and fair elections the president has spoken to that multiple times, multiple speeches. what we saw on january six still exists and still exists again this should not be a partisan issue. how worried is the white house about the potential for more political violence? as we get to the midterms and also on election day. one of the things the president has talked about, he talked about condemning violence political violence toning down the rhetoric how our democracy is currently still under attack. there is also optimism, right? he believes a majority of americans out there who do not want to see that who do not want to see our democracy under attack. if anything, it was one of the reasons why he was so successful in 2020. it is up to us to make sure we continue to protect our democracy. we strengthen our democracy. also by him being out there and so forcefully to that issue, i want to be very careful because i can't speak to elections and i can't speak to politics. what he is out there saying is there is a choice to be made. there is so much at stake. so much at stake! there are differences on what he and congressional democrats are trying to do. we talk about the economy, we talk about what commercial republicans are trying to do. >> let me switch gears here for a moment, president obama was at a rally last night, in milwaukee. he had this to say. ght,they have a long hours and e backs, and bad knees, to get that social security. if ron johnson does not understand that. if he understands giving tax breaks for private planes more than he understands that seniors who worked all their lives are able to retire with dignity and respect, he is not the person who is thinking about you and knows you and sees you! he should not be your senator from wisconsin! >> quite the passionate statement from the former president. my question is, why is the former president making this case and not the current president? >> i would disagree with that characterization of your question. or how it was characterized. the president has been talking about this almost every day for months now. he has been talking about the choices that are at stake here, which is what i was just talking about a moment ago which is, what republicans are trying to do. congressional republicans are trying to take away in the social security. they want to chop it off. they want to put it on the talking block. the president has been saying this. it's why he has taken every action he can to make sure we strengthened medicare, right? that is why the inflation reduction act has been very important, critical, why it will lower cost for americans. the first thing they want to do is repeal the inflation reduction act, as well. it will increase cost for americans when it comes to energy when you think about health care the president has been talking about our economy what are the things that are at stake, right? also the thing the work that president biden, vice president harris, those things they have done to get our country back on its feet over the past 20 months. >> you said the magic word, economy! that is the next question. we got some good news, some good economic news. the gdp growing at a faster pace than most people expected. so there is inflation. there is the fear of looming recession. pull off to poll shows that voters trust republicans more than democrats when it comes to the economy. what is the administration's response to that persistent view among the electors? >> first we have always said we understand what the american public is dealing with. we understand there are high cost. we understand they are feeling very squeezed right now. the president always says this, you hear him say this all the time he wants to make sure we give americans a little bit more breathing room. it's what his dad used to say when he grew up in scranton. dealing with these kitchen table issues. when the president walked into this administration, the economy was in ruins. absolute ruins. unemployment was above 6.4%. hundreds of thousands of jobs, small businesses were shutting down. the majority of schools were shutting down. the previous president he we saw something we hadn't seen before which is he had lost more jobs since president herbert hoover because of this presidents policy's unemployment is at 3.5% and historic low we haven't seen that in 50 years. we have seen 10 million jobs created. he moved even further by making sure we lower those gas prices, right? because of russia and the war that putin has started, we saw gas prices go up. now it is down by $1.25 per gallon since the peak of june. that is because this president took historic actions to make sure that gas prices were coming down we still have more work to do! that is why the inflation reduction act is so important. we still have more work to do why hearing aid prices went down, 30 million people are going to be able to get hearing aids at a cost that is not $30,300 a pair. those are the types of actions he will continue to take to lower cost. >> we are already overtime. i can't let you go before, as you mentioned the previous president, is the white house worried that donald trump is going to be allowed back on twitter? >> i can't speak to that, i know people there are a lot of conversations about elon musk taking over twitter. i can't speak to any transaction. i can't speak to any business decision that he is going to make or has made. that is a private company platform i'm not gonna speak to that. >> in terms of the impact that would have on the national political discourse? >> right now we are out there every day we are talking to student debt relief we are talking about economic recovery we're talking about the gdp which showed economic growth in the last quarter by 2.6%. it is important inflation going down. people's wages going up all of that is so important that is what the president is focused on. >> you left out the cola increase, highest in 50 years. that is just me. karine jean-pierre, white house press like terry. thank you so much for coming to the sunday show. >> thank, you we appreciated. >> coming, up a nation on edge ahead of the midterms. pelosi's attack stood fears about more attacks and intimidation. we will go through all that after the break. ♪ what will you do? 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there is been a tenfold increase in threats to members of congress. as marino's, as you know, these people our changing roles because of, it resigning because of it, it is exceptionally serious. it's not just in congress, it is local officials in part of a huge increase in threats. >> miles, how much of this fear of political violence and warnings we are talking about due to donald trump and the republican party? >> in my personal opinion it is a normal enormous. do not just take my word for it, the data shows that this is the case. before donald trump was president, conspiracy theories like qanon were on the fringes of the american political system. now, in the wake of his presidency, polls show that 50% of republicans now believe in the core tenets of qanon. that is absolutely staggering. what does that have to do with political violence? a lot of these individuals who start of these grievances and conspiracy theories and jumped the tracks from violent rhetoric into actual violence. so much so that we are not seeing one in four americans say that they are more predisposed towards political violence and one in ten americans say that they would like to see donald trump forcibly reinstalled in the white house. this is a blinking red light for democracy and i will add one more data point to this, jonathan. two researchers came up with a political stress index to show how polarized we are as a country. their ultimate conclusion? this is the highest level on the political stress index since the american civil war. we are never difficult time and on trump and the wider maga movement have been very actively fanning the flames of political violence so much so that candidates i talked to on the campaign trail are wearing ballistic vests, bulletproof fasts, when they go out and campaign. we just saw a few weeks ago the un sent u.s. senate in utah it was a man was chased by a man a truck who pointed again and he and his wife. this about public servants and potential public servants are facing on the campaign trail. >> i had not heard that, about evan mcmullin. he has been a guest on the show. that is terrifying. mary, i would love to get your response reaction to what miles said. before that, let's listen to what president biden has to say about the attack on paul pelosi. >> you can't condemn the violence unless you condemn those people who continue to argue that the election was not real, that is being stolen, all of the malarkey that is being put out there to undermine democracy. you can't just apologize and say it's just the violence. it affects the mentality, how people think. especially people who are not maybe as stable as other people. >> mary, your response to the president? to miles? what can be done to prevent another attack as happened to paul pelosi, from happening? >> yes, the very same disinformation and lies about the 2020 election which, let's be clear, haven't thoroughly debunked. thrown out of court and every challenge, save one for a very minor point. these thoroughly debunked claims of election fraud, the same disinformation that led to the january 6th attack on the capital is what is fueling these threats. these threats against election workers, against elected officials. threats against people running for elections and voter intimidation. the president is right and will take far more than just the president speaking out about this. inherently, when the president speaks there is a certain number of people who will think it's political. we need elected leaders to come together across the aisle and denounce the violence and disinformation behind it. we just aren't seeing enough of that. the other point i will make his that even though this is being driven, very largely about disinformation. many of the stature coming from the right and to point on that. it's not just the democrats being threatened, republicans are being threatened as well. where stephen the democrats. those on the farthest fringes of the right will denounce republicans who don't see things their way, who don't believe in the election fraud. obviously we have seen threats against the republican members of congress who voted for impeachment, right? most of those are not even running again. they have been driven from office. the other point is that violence breeds violence. even though it is coming, predominantly, from one side of the political spectrum we have plenty of examples of it coming from the opposite side of the political spectrum and the more people, start polling data miles talking about, that is very dangerous. the more people start thinking that violence is unacceptable means of addressing grievances, the more that will happen on both sides. we are at a perilous moment. i also don't want to frighten people off from voting, right? we need our leaders to come out right now and the clear that they can protect people's right to vote. >> mary, really quickly. one more question. speaking of future of the right to vote. the judge wrote that it group of vigilantes can monitor dropbox in arizona. voters had complained that the waters were intimidating, but the judge so they did not pose, appear to be, a true threat. what do you make of that? what should an average voter do if they encounter something like that? pretty fast. >> i read the judge's opinion yesterday. i disagree with him, but i will say he expressed concern about this, invited the plaintiffs to return with more evidence. i think focusing meticulous on people who are in military gear with weapons is something that will get much closer to a true threat in this judge's perception. i will note that i think it's a matter of first amendment. you don't have to have a true threat to be able to prohibit voter intimidation. the supreme court is what withheld don't allowing any electioneering nearing, not even protected speech around polling places. the case saw, i think, supports limits on activity that combines both expressed of anyone expressive conduct like what we were seeing with cameras, it sattre, outside of polls and would call for limitations on that. i think the point tariffs -- on the ruling. and the judge got a wrong but left the door open for them to come back and did express concern about it. >> we have to leave it there, sadly, but we will have plenty of opportunity to have you both back to discuss this. mary record, miles taylor, thank you so much for coming to the sunday show. ahead, breaking down some of the key battleground races. don't go anywhere. t go anywhere. stories of bipolar depression. i just couldn't find my way out of it. the lows of bipolar depression can take you to a dark place. latuda could make a real difference in your symptoms. latuda was proven to significantly reduce bipolar depression symptoms. and in clinical studies, had no substantial impact on weight. this is where i want to be. call your doctor about sudden behavior changes or suicidal thoughts. antidepressants can increase these in children and young adults. elderly dementia patients have increased risk of death or stroke. report fever, confusion, stiff or uncontrollable muscle movements, which may be life threatening or permanent. these aren't all the serious side effects. now i'm back where i belong. ask your doctor if latuda is right for you. pay as little as zero dollars for your first prescription. >> tech: at safelite, we take care of vehicles pay as little as zero dollars with the latest technology. when my last customer discovered a crack in his car's windshield, he scheduled at safelite.com. safelite makes it easy. we're the experts at replacing your glass... ...and recalibrating your advanced safety system. >> customer: and they recycled my old glass. now that's a company i can trust. >> tech: don't wait. schedule today. ♪ pop rock music ♪ >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ i'm aline and i live in castle valley, california. my husband, barney, and i have been married for 32 years. i think the most important thing in life is to stay healthy. i noticed i was having some memory losses. i discovered prevagen. since i've been on prevagen, i've noticed more clarity, more sharpness. the recall mechanism is a lot more concise. i've been taking prevagen for almost 10 years. it's wonderful. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. discomfort back there? 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>> i mean, yes and now. i always expected to be in this exact position as we close into election day. most voters don't tune into politics until right at the close and what we are seeing is this late partisanship for the campaign activities, reminding the georgia electorate that it is a heavily independent, right-leaning electorate. this was always going to be the case. i expected the race to come down to the wire and so the president -- >> what do you think about senator schumer's assessment? >> i don't think any of it anything of it, whatsoever, frankly. what i think is that we are obsessed about polls. frankly -- >> says the pollster. >> here's the thing. we want polls to tell us what the future is going to be. the polls can't do that. there are too many variables. there are hundreds of variables at play in determining how race comes out. a poll can't tell you what the future is. of course georgia is going to be close, right? well busted last time around? 40 9:49. it was a close state. all of those 2.9 million voters who voted for donald trump you think they won't vote for herschel walker? of course they will. georgia will be close. what we cannot see is what the turnout will be like. from every indication from across these battleground states is that we will have a turnout that does not look like any of the majority of the last midterms. capehart, do you think at around 43, 40% turnout and a typical mid term. 2018 wasn't a liar, 55 turnout? we have the majority of americans holding a midterm election? it looks like we will have, again, the majority of voters are voting in the midterm election. a lot of these models will be off because, quite frankly, a lot of these models are not accounting for this increased turnout with young people and particularly women voters. >> so do you agree with that rachel, really quick? >> so, cornell is exactly right. we are both pollsters. i call myself a recovering pollster. i if you are wrong about who shows up and cast ballots you will be wrong on the pole. if as pointed, out it is hard to anticipate the future. this front end of your show today was talking about the polarization index, the political stress index. how it is similar to the civil war. when you will see in this midterm is some way to 2018, 2020, the third election cycle in a row that was a deviating election. we don't really have a good point past comparisons to look at. in the case of this particular election, i think we really are gearing up to look at something very simple for the presidential term. if we had 53 and 18 and we are over performing on a lot of those turnout metrics as of today, as cornell was just talking about. i don't think it is unreasonable to assume we are going to match 2018 turnout and maybe go somewhere in between what was ultimately the highest presidential turnout we have had in decades. >> in the two minutes we have left, we have to talk about two political powerhouses. one is hitting the campaign trail this weekend, the other is hitting later in the week. former president obama, former president donald trump. how much of an impact, let start with obama real fast, the impact of president obama out on the campaign trail. the way he was in michigan and russ collinson yesterday. >> well look, obama's, i don't say this cause i work for him, i am not a -- >> he is a unique political figure. he is a once in a lifetime political figure and movement. when you think about some of those young people, obama doesn't become president if -- the electorate in the 2008 are new to the process. we built that. they were disproportionately young people, disproportionate young people are diverse. he energize young voters. we need those gen z's, energize young people in the face to the democratic party like no one else. one quick thing. the last poll that galloped id with the former president's own polling at 63. there is no one who can even touch him on the campaign trail. >> rachel, what about donald trump? it seems to be his pattern, i have noticed. he comes into big races, big election days with 48 hours to go before anyone starts voting. what kind of impact do you think he is going to have on the campaign trail? on the vote? >> i think what donald trump taught us in 2018. keep in mind, 2018 we are talking about mid term fundamentals. the narrative is that republicans will get to lacked. what does donald trump do? he hits the stump all campaign cycle, everywhere. senate races, house races, everywhere. a lot of the talking heads were like, this is terrible, you don't want to remind people of donald trump. >> i was like, that's wrong actually. what they are doing is reminding their base to show up, their coalition to get in enthused. i would have obama on the stump absolutely everywhere. house races, senate races, governor races. the entire month of september and october. you cannot have enough barack obama on the stop. >> rachel, cornell, we will have you back. think it was great to have you on this morning, thank you for coming back to this sunday show. next, my exclusive interview with pennsylvania and tierney general and democratic candidate for governor josh shapiro. keep it right here. t right here they have a high-risk factor. such as heart disease, diabetes, being overweight, asthma, or smoking. even if symptoms feel mild, these factors can increase your risk of covid-19 turning severe. so, if you're at high risk and test positive, don't wait. ask your healthcare provider right away if an authorized oral treatment is right for you. when you're through with powering through, it's time for theraflu hot liquid medicine. powerful relief so you can restore and recover. theraflu hot beats cold. ♪ ♪ have diabetes? 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>> now, listen. i will always defended women's right to choose, free of political interference. that is an issue that is central to this campaign for governor in kent pennsylvania. my partner, doug mastriano has taken the most extreme position dangerous position in the nation. he wants to ban abortion for all situations including rape, incest, and that he wants to charge women of this lifesaving procedure with murder. i have to push back. unfortunately we have a legislature that wants to put that bill on the table. he was signed into law, criminalize abortion and i will veto it. pushing for women to make decisions for their own bodies. >> of course i was referencing mehmet oz is comments during that time the debate, but what is at stake during that this election? >> i think democracy is on the ballot. i think our fundamental freedoms are on the ballot. the freedom to make decisions. the freedom to marry who you love. the freedom to vote, our most fundamental freedom. it is all being tested because of how dangerous and extreme my opponent is. he worked in 2020 to stop your vote from being counted, he is part of that violent mob that stormed the capitol. and he pledged in 2024 to, in his words, review the voting logs and decertify voting machines. i think it's clear that he wants to decertify the voting machines of communities of colors. he wants to decertify community voting machines where democrats want to vote. he wants to pick the winner. that is an undemocratic. that is on the ballot of this election. >> what does this say about american politics that someone who was in washington on january 6th, an election denier, is your republican challenger for governor? >> look, i think it says something about that republican primary electorate. i think what we have seen in response to him being the nominee is something that should actually hard in a lot of people. something that should lift us up. that is a whole bunch of republicans are taking off the red jersey and putting on a pennsylvania jersey and saying that guy's too extreme. like ice too dangerous. we want to come together and not just win an election by working in a bipartisan manner, right? there are people from all walks of life together. we also want to govern in a way that is respectful of all in a matter of regardless of who you like light, who you, like why you pray to. >> as you traveling, what are you hearing on the campaign trail? are you hearing abortion? inflation? crime? the economy? what are you carrying the mouse? >> i think pennsylvania snow had a walk and chew gum at the same time. here is what i hear. whether i am in an urban area, rural area, suburban area, people want good schools for their kids. for all of gods children. they all deserve an opportunity to get a quality education. people want to make that their kids can walk to and from school safely. people have a right to both be safe and feel safe in their communities. and they talked a lot about economy, cutting costs and giving people who have, for a long time, been shut out an opportunity to be heard. i hear every day about people being worried that their fundamental freedoms are being taken away from them. that the institutions that they have come to rely on our crumbling. and then a lot of people want to push back against that. that is motivating them to get out and vote in this election. >> let's talk more about crime. you used a phrase just now that i've seen you use in stories that i've read to get ready for this interview. that is, people have a right to be safe and feel safe in our community. what exactly do you mean by that? >> look, i think people have a right to be safe in their communities. i think government has a fundamental responsibility to ensure people safety and while being. that means making sure we have an adequate number of police in every community. it also means that people have a right to feel safe when they confront a police officer. that they can feel as though their constitutional rights be protected. that they feel so the police in their communities look like them and come from the neighborhoods that they live fan. they have been properly train at the highest possible levels. look, jonathan, i don't think this should be an either or. i don't think it should be putting one side against each other. this is a both and. we can both respectfully's and make sure we have safe communities and constitutional rights protected. >> you can catch more of my exclusive interview with josh shapiro in our next hour we do at the coffee house in pittsburgh, delicious. we return to doug mastriano's campaign and did not receive a response. after the break, vermont congressman peter welch looks to switch chambers and fill his senate seat. next. senate seat. next ♪ what will you do? 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are we going to vote to protect women's reproductive freedom. we passed out in the house, the filibuster is blocking it in the senate. are we going to address with energy the affordability challenges the families across this country are facing? that is really at stake. is about trying to address those issues or relying on the old trump tax cuts for corporations over very wealthy people. a lot of that state for american families in the outcome of the senate election. >> well, congressman, you listen a lot of issues there in that answers. what are voters telling you is their top concern right now? >> everybody is affected by the affordably d issues effecting by inflation. you go to the grocery store now, on the way home you have to fill with gas, you wonder how you will make it the bills by the end of the month. that is an incredible challenge that we all have coming out of covid. we can solve these. we can address them. we have to have a democratic process in having processes in the senate that will help working class families. what we see with mitch mcconnell, rick scott, is that they are go to policy is a continuation of trip cooldown economics. that puts even social security benefits in the bull's-eye, for them. that is the way they will vote to save money. tax cuts for very wealthy and corporations. that is the go-to tool for those folks. they say they will bring better things for working families who are left out entirely. it is really an ongoing struggle, do we focus on how we can help families or how we can help the very wealthy through trump style tax cuts? >> in your debate this week, you are opponent clash on the supreme court decision on abortion rights. you recommend term limits for supreme court justices. why? >> we have the worst supreme court since the civil war. essentially they are doing something that is extraordinary and really astonishing. they have taken away the constitutional right that women in this country have enjoyed for 50 years. in doing so they have created a man's additional division in a democracy that is already on a tight rope. term limits, 18 years, would give every president the opportunity to appoint or nominate supreme court candidates. in some extent it would take the politics out. mitch mcconnell thwarted even the consideration of barack obama's nominee. he would have appropriate politics, we have a president elect by the american people would have the opportunity to make two appointees. that i think would take a while to get to rebalance in the court, but i think it is something that would be necessary. >> last question for you, congressman. the attack on speaker pelosi's husband. how concerned are you? not only about election security in the state of our democracy, but about your own safety out on the campaign trail? that of your colleagues? >> well, the thing that i'm most concerned about. first of all, i am heartsick about the violence and for what is happened to paul in the pelosi family. that is unbelievably terrible. what is reflecting is that violence has become an acceptable method of political persuasion. we saw on january 6th. 147 people were badly injured,, most of those capitol police officers. an officer was killed, a woman was killed. violence was accepted as a legitimate way of trying to get the outcome to an election that those people who said that it wasn't legitimate wanted. that has infected the democracy. i worry about election security in these districts where there are going to be people messing around with the ballot box. it is the accepted -- what we really have to have this confidence in our elections and acceptance that voters decide who the leaders are. >> congressman peter welch, candidate for senate in the state of vermont. thank you so much for coming to the sunday show. we want to know that we did reach out to trailed mulloy's campaign and did not receive a response. coming up in our next hour, voter intimidation tactics at the dire warning from homeland security about the increased threat three days away from the midterms. the supreme court is about to take up to affirmative action cases that challenge more than 40 years of legal president in college admissions. we will discuss this and much more in the next hour of the sunday show. sunday show. bipolar depression. it made me feel trapped in a fog. this is art inspired by real stories of bipolar depression. i just couldn't find my way out of it. the lows of bipolar depression can take you to a dark place. latuda could make a real difference in your symptoms. latuda was proven to significantly reduce bipolar depression symptoms. and in clinical studies, had no substantial impact on weight. this is where i want to be. call your doctor about sudden behavior changes or suicidal thoughts. antidepressants can increase these in children and young adults. elderly dementia patients have increased risk of death or stroke. report fever, confusion, stiff or uncontrollable muscle movements, which may be life threatening or permanent. these aren't all the serious side effects. now i'm back where i belong. ask your doctor if latuda is right for you. pay as little as zero dollars for your first prescription. 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in her travels on your rv trip across the country, did you hear from people that gives you concern about the rise of political violence? where the potential for political violence in this country? >> it's really interesting, because i did hear from people. there were people who thought that january 6th was completely justified. i think that this was a really frightening development, there is a large swath of the country where people are extremely angry. i think the public should understand that most members of congress, apart from the leadership and a handful of members who were part of the impeachment process and serve on the january six committee do not have individual security. they are allowed to use some of the representational allowance to pay for that security, but as a member of congress who are on your own. when you think back over the last decade or so i look to the beginnings of the deep tea party movement when they were more active threats against members of congress. that that has escalated to the point we are now. it is so sad what is happened with paul pelosi in the pelosi family. this is a very, very dangerous time. at the same time you don't want to scare people so much that you scare the motive voting. >> to be clear, the united states capitol police says it is working to stop thousands of potential threats. how do you think that they're monitoring those threats and how do they stop them? >> so, it's a monumental challenge, especially for a grossly understaffed, grossly underfunded police department. we have learned a lot of things about the capitol police department in the aftermath of january 6th. one of those is that they could literally double in size to do their job. they still might not have enough resources. this isn't all hands on deck situation with the recent bulletin released by the fbi and dhs. calling it other groups, lawmakers increasingly exposed during midterm elections football violence. i propose some very quick fix where the capital police are getting up to speed into things like emergency funding for contractors, retired secret service agents, to retire diplomatic agents. they already train, they can start traveling quickly with lawmakers and we also need funding to go to local police departments. it could be grant money from the doj, saying look at the residences of certain high-profile lawmakers, you will get overtime pay, extra duty pay to have a marked present at those residents. lastly, we have to improve the partnership between social media platforms that are radicalizing people like david to pay and the fbi and dhs. it has to get better and fast. >> rev, let's talk about those armed vigilantes in arizona. many -- refused to issue a retiree restraining order to block people from guarding voting boxes in the state. are you worried that this will inspire voter intimidation further? >> i am absolutely concerned. i think it sends the wrong signal when people have to look at, particularly in the atmosphere of pelosi being attacked, have to look at armed people standing near where they are going to vote and what that implication could be. let's remember, this man who broke into speaker pelosi's home, the asking where is nancy, they were repeating the same message of wears nancy as they are breaking into the capitol on january 6th. we are now in a time where it is almost being normalized that, like in a banana republic, our top officials can be targeted by people that wanted to do violence. not i want to do voting. we have an armed people near voting sites in georgia say that that is all right and in the environment of armor all kinds of votes of situations, it is fine. i think that is dangerous and it is dangerous for those in congress's own government. i've increase my security because anytime people are afraid to be publicly identified by something because a physical fear, then we are going away from democracy. i am still waiting to hear donald trump and some of the leaders of the right unequivocally to announce what happened to paul pelosi with no abandon. i've not heard it. maybe i missed it. i have not heard the talk from donald trump and others saying how grotesque and despicable this was and that we cannot normalize this. those that will not say that, in my opinion, have forfeited the right to ask american people for their trust. >> that's a very powerful statement from reverend sharpton and i agree 100%. i am wondering, though, frank what would an unequivocal statement from republican leadership have on tamping down the high temperature that is out there in the american populist right now? where threats of violence are or outright violence is something that everyone is not worried about? >> the? >> there are two ways to look at this. i look at this through counter radicalization challenge. there is a population of our population has been radicalized and the radicalize or's -in-chief are those who could have an impact if they'd were to, truly, as the reverend suggests, come out. particularly former president, and say that violence is not the answer. i dance what you are doing as not part of the democratic process. don't hold your breath on that. i also want to add there that even if that would happen, there is enough of a core radicalized segment of our society that has gotten way out ahead of the party. the party has lost control of some of their own people. there may be no return for some of them. only law enforcement catching up to them when they are about to commit violence. yes, we need radicalize or's in chief to get out and announce this strongly. unlikely to happen, but even if they did it unlikely to impact a small subset that are gone in terms of mindset. >> i saw you nodding in agreement a moment ago when frank was responding, i would love your thoughts. the. >> i think there's a segment where the idea of using violence in the political violence is baked in. it will be very hard to undo. there will be negative incentives for the republican leadership because that is a significant base of their party and they have been reluctant, unwilling to not denouncing it. i think after 9/11, where we had members of congress all standing on the capitol united in defense of the nation, we don't have anything like that now. we have a statement on twitter from mitch mcconnell, but that is not a wholesale statement denouncing violence to the rest of the nation and joining with democrats to do that. that means the party in the country have a lot on their hands to deal with people who are so far the down the line that looked almost impossible to get them back. >> we are talking about folks being radicalized the for political violence, even intimidation. i keep thinking about governor desantis and his election force. there is body cam footage released recently showing formerly incarcerated people allegedly voting illegally in the 2020 election. they were targeted, of course. they were voted vaudreuil decor cards and were told that it could've out. even if there were some recourse we, what kind of message you think this sends to voters? this body cam footage we were just watching their? >> i think it sends the message that he should not vote, intimidate people but the it instill that they should not vote and tries to drive something up that consequently i should not be out. all this, i feel, is by design to tamp in a lot of voters. whether they had legal problems as ex-con's or citizens who just don't want to put themselves in harm's way and that should not, it moderna did in a democratic society be a remote possibility to the irish voter. and i agree that there's a radical the form that will not be dealt with in terms of changing their minds. those that are supposed to be within the framework of trying to run this country, that's why i put the challenge to donald trump. they ought to be clearly stating what it is. they you are from new york, jonathan, and you know that there have been many situations where i've been -- i denounced it, including when i was there leading a march and people wanted to retaliate and i, from a hospital bed, said we should not have violence. when you have people running for president, for governor, that cannot even denounce the speaker's husband be beat in his home, where are we in this country and what are we talking about in a serious way given the power of government, to. i think we are at the brink of no return of not seeing the decency in every elected office. i am not asking right wing or left wing extremists to convert, i am expecting those on the right in the left i want to have the power of government to set a tone that violence is not tolerated. >> reverend al sharpton, dai edwards, thank you all so much for coming to the sunday show. coming up, more of my exclusive interview with pennsylvania 20 general democratic candidate for governor josh shapiro after the break. te the break. when uc got unpredictable,... i got rapid symptom relief with rinvoq. check. when uc held me back... i got lasting, steroid-free remission with rinvoq. check. and when uc got the upper hand... rinvoq helped visibly repair the colon lining. check. rapid symptom relief. lasting, steroid-free remission. and a chance to visibly repair the colon lining. check. check. and check. rinvoq can lower your ability to fight infections, including tb. serious infections and blood clots, some fatal; cancers, including lymphoma and skin cancer; death, heart attack, stroke, and tears in the stomach or intestines occurred. people 50 and older... with at least 1 heart disease risk factor have higher risks. don't take if allergic to rinvoq... as serious reactions can occur. tell your doctor if you are or may become pregnant. put uc in check and keep it there, with rinvoq. ask your gastroenterologist about rinvoq. and learn how abbvie could help you save. covid-19 moves fast, and now you can too by asking your healthcare provider if an oral treatment is right for you. oral treatments can be taken at home and must be taken within 5 days from when symptoms first appear. if you have symptoms of covid-19, even if they are mild, don't wait, get tested quickly. if you test positive and are at high risk of severe disease, act fast. ask if an oral treatment is right for you. covid-19 moves fast, and now you can too. 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>> i came to pittsburgh that day in the hours after the shootings, the killings, and i will never be able to see what i saw the crime scene. i will also never be able to and feel what i felt in the hours after, when the community gather together at the corner forbes and marie which is sort of a center of life in the hill in pittsburgh. people came together from all walks of life if. black, white, two, on to, and held hands. saying songs. stood up and said we are going to be stronger than hate in this community and we are not going to let that deranged murderer define us. the strength that i saw in that community just hours after those horrific killings is something that inspires me to this day. that tree of life killer posted his hate filled manifesto on a white supremacist websites known as gab just moments before he went in and murdered 11 people while they were shipped. that is the same exact website where my opponent, doug mastriano, has gone to report recruit for his campaign. actively recruiting white supremacists to his campaign on website used by the tree of life killer. that flies in the face of that spirit, the feeling that so many pittsburghers and pennsylvania's felt in the hours after the tree of life when we tried to come together. this guy, doug mastriano, is trying to rip us apart all over again. it is unconscionable. >> your thoughts on the connection between that rise and that antisemitism in the politically-charged environment that we are in now? it seems as though antisemitism, anti black racism, just intolerance and ray sentiment and hatred in general is more accepted now than it was ever, but even four years ago. >> i will push back on you, totally respectfully. i don't know that it is more accepted, but certainly more prevalent. that is because hate speech begets hate crimes. the type of vitriol that comes from my opponent and others like him leads to more violence in our communities. it leads to targeting someone because of what they believe in or who they pray to or what they like look like or who they love. that makes us all less safe. even even if you are not a particular person or type of person being targeted by that hateful rhetoric, hateful speech. listen, leaders have a responsibility to speak and act with moral clarity. but we have seen in recent years are more and more so-called leaders failing to speak and act with clarity. my opponent is an exhibit a of that, obviously the former president is another example of that. that makes us all less safe. >> apparently the former president is coming here to campaign for doctor oz. the presence of donald trump in our political life, but also coming to pennsylvania. good thing? bad thing? in terms of your campaign. >> i am focused on pennsylvania and pennsylvania's needs. not getting distracted by any noise coming outside. especially by the former president. he makes a lot of noise eaten every day. i think all that serves is to divide us further. >> why is it imperative that you win? >> but i don't want to sound overly dramatic here, but i am running against a guy who wants to take away all of your fundamental freedoms. the freedom to make decisions over your own body, mary who you love. the freedom to be able to about. he has told us, time and time again, that he is going to review the voting laws, make corrections, certify voting machines so that he gets to pick the winner. if we allow that into government, the commonwealth of pennsylvania, the swing east of all swing states in the nation. then we are putting our democracy at risk. we are undermining the vote of every citizen in every other state as well, if we don't end up having an election here in pennsylvania that reflects and respects the will of the people. it is all on the line right now. fundamental freedoms, democracy, playing out here in pennsylvania. i think it is extreme and represents an aunt accidental tied to our democracy. that's why we need to win the election. >> joshua pirro, democratic candidate for governor in pennsylvania. thank you very much for coming to the sunday show. >> thank you. >> and we reached out to doug mastriano's campaign, as well, and did not receive a response. coming up, decades of legal precedent in the college admissions process is on the docket for monday at the supreme court. what we can expect, next. at we can expect, next does it worry me? 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diverse group of supreme court justices in history will gather to hear on whether affirmative action in supreme college admissions is constitutional. -- a real chance of dismantling affirmative action altogether. joining me, dwight mcbride, president of the new school and -- senior counsel at the legal defense fund. thank you both very much for coming to the sunday show. michelle, i will start with you. the ldl wrote amicus brief in this case, representing 25 students and alumni groups. any anticipation on how the court might rule? >> we are going to have to wait and see what the court does hear the court has surprised us before. as you know, the court expected that the public expects of the court to overrule affirmative action before and it did not. they ruled that it was legally admissible for universities to consider vase as one of many factors and admissions. also, in 2013 and two that and 16 when the court had fisher cases before, it the court just reaffirmed that it is legally permissible to consider race as one of many factors in admissions. we're actually going to have to wait and see what the court does hear. >> dwight, as educators, university president, what does this mean for higher education? does the should the supreme court strike it down? >> it's interesting, jonathan. one of the things that we don't have to do is speculate about what it will be. we actually have good examples of that in california, michigan, where in 1996 back when i was a graduate student at ucla we struck down, the state struck down impromptu 09, affirmative action and in admissions. at that point. we have seen precipitous declines in diversity across the university of california system in the last 24 years. we actually don't have to anticipate what will happen. if the courts writedowns affirmative action, we know it will happen. it will make us less equitable, it will make our environments last diverse, and it will make us less capable of better preparing our students for global citizenship, increasingly inclusive societies. >> michelle, justice ketanji brown jackson is excused herself in the harvard case but it's here in the north carolina case. what impact, if any, by that have on the outcome? >> we know that ketanji brown jackson asked a lot of questions in merry v. bell again and the first of the term with what exactly was the original intent of the 14th amendment of the constitution. she a lot to say about that. >> she should did >> so we can expect some of those conversations to come back a. as you know, say brandi would've education -- so i expect we are gonna hear some of that commentary in the u.n.c.. case she of course is put not part of the harvard case, the u.s. case goes for so that is already going to be part of the conversation. >> i should call yo president mcbride. but president mcbride, let's say the supreme court does do away with affirmative action. says you can't consider race at law. consider that the tenants of a foreign of action have been part of the landscape for decades now, is a, she should we consider a, baked in among your fellow university in college presidents and admissions officers that no matter what the supreme court, does the tradition has already been set in terms of making college campuses and classrooms as diverse as possible? >> i think that that work is not done. that's the problem. and we are at a place where we've made good strides. networkers completely not done. i think about my own institution, we're currently are undergraduate enrollment as just under 4% african americans. that is not where we want to be. when we think about who we want to be educating. we want to have access to higher education. which is the critical milestone in terms of advancing social mobility, in terms of advancing democracy. and educated citizenry, being critical to. that more critical today than it has ever been, and perhaps. so i don't think that workers, don that is a problem. we are trying to quickly declare victory on something that is as old as white supremacy itself. it is baked into our institutions in ways that take real time and energy, so i worry about what that would mean. one of the things we will have to figure out, one of the proxies, one of the ways in which we can do this war without specifically calling on race, it makes it harder and more challenging. and so far in california they will tell you they've not done a great job. >>, michelle last question to you. since you are going to be in the courtroom when arguments hopping tomorrow, what do you gonna be on the lookout for in the arguments? what red flags are you looking for, tells you about how the court is leaning? >> i will be looking for conversations about the meaning of the 14th amendment. does the 14th amendment alarm considerations of race, when you are looking to ensure that the nation is getting its needs met? we understand from the amicus race that racial diversity and graduates, and having graduates who are equipped to function in a multi racial democracy, that is imperative for the military and science and business and technological innovation. so i will be looking to hear, what are the justices saying about whether it be possible to consider race in certain situations where it is important for those reasons? >> michelle turner, which i want to say michelle turner qian. professor university president dwight mcbride, thank you both very much for coming to the sunday show. >> thank you for having us. >> after the break i have a great panel sounding off to the other sunday show. stay with us. show. stay with us ♪ will you make something better? ♪ will you create something entirely new? ♪ our dell technologies advisors provide you with the tools and expertise you need to do incredible things. because we believe there's an innovator in all of us. discomfort back there? instead of using aloe, or baby wipes, or powders, try the cooling, soothing relief or preparation h. because your derriere 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stop a crime across the country. -- is deranged into. others >> republican house minority leader kevin mccarthy this morning condemning the attack on speaker pelosi's husband paul. grounded me now is sophia, nelson contributing editor for greenland author of be the one you need. former congresswoman donna edwards, msnbc political analyst. and last but not least, here on site with, me nbc news washington correspondent and moderator of washington meet on pbs. i want to pick up on the conversation that don and i were having at the top of this hour. and that it is, the responsibility of republican leaders. also what reverend sharpton was really hammering home. the responsibility of republican leaders to unequivocally denounce what happened to paul pelosi, the speaker's husband, without tying it to anything else. sophia, would love your thoughts on that. >> that is absolutely correct. i think it is going to be hard to hit the right note there. i watch the rink santorum -- which scott on another show this morning do it. and so i think the vast majority of republican leaders, some didn't get it right. and i just think there cannot be a bat, there has to be this is wrong, this is not acceptable this is political violence. in the period, stop it stop. >>, john a congresswoman edwards, listen to what was said by mr. sununu on political violence. >> look, you can go back to the. beginning the started back in the summer of 2020. cities, bernie not a whole lot of accountability,. there the headline for folks that were disagreeing with what might have been happening are not happening in their communities, they line completely move with very little accountability. that set a new standard in a very dangerous way, which carries over into the politics of what will happen in 2020. and the insanity of what we saw on january six. what do seven to steve scalise, that was years before 2020. threats on justice kavanaugh. so, no gabby giffords. there does not seem to be an into this, it's on both sides of the aisle. >> former congresswoman, it's on both sides of the aisle. >> what we saw with what happened with paul pelosi was not both sides of anything. for more than a decade republicans have vilified nancy pelosi. they've turned her into a monster. right-wing media conspiracy theories suggesting that she is moving every chest piece. and so it was inevitable that something horrible would happen. because of that. and i think that these leaders speak out of both sides of their mouths when they, say on the one hand they are saying the right things. and kevin mccarthy did this morning. but on the other hand they will go on the stump and do its plan and pena did in virginia. and make a joke of it. or continue to suggest not that violence is okay but they give license to people's worst fears and to the conspiracies. so you, cannot on the one hand, benefit from what happens in politics. then on the other hand try to distance yourself from that violence. and i think about is with happening within the republican party. >> and yamiche, the reaction when the news broke about what happened to paul pelosi was immediate and just sort of -- folks were shocked. i'm just wondering, talk about the impact of something like that happening to members of congress. the reaction of members of congress and their staff. >> this, is i will pull it back because i feel i have to in some ways, this was a grotesque attack on a man who is in his 80s. this was somebody who had their head bastion with a hammer. when you have these, people including republicans in particular, who are saying. but this is a horrible. but there should not be about, right now even though the reporter of, ask we are we going with this? extremism in the republican party and on the -- side when it comes to, violence comes to those election denying a talking about conspiracy theories, there was no way to not say that this more the republican side, that's because my own reporting. it's always shocking but not surprising what you're hearing some republicans, and i can think of the virginia governor glenn youngkin who, said there is no room for violence but we are going to send it to pelosi right back to california with her husband. that to me tells me the state of our politics right, now which is it has gotten so tribal. even when someone is literally in the hospital getting their skull repaired, there cannot be opposed to, say we're gonna start with nancy pelosi. the policies we do not, like. later asked to be the same, date same sentence. and what to me tells me that is sort of underscores the state of our, politics which is scary and dangerous. i'm sure you've gotten threats, so many people around in the media. people are getting threats every. day and sometimes they come to your doorstep, even when it's at our doorstep we can't, as a society, say there is no place for violence, period. full stop, no but. >> we still have. time that's a great way to shoot. that's a sermon from yamiche. i want to play a bit of time. let's play what's in their work scott had to say. this is on state of the union. >> should republicans do more to reject conspiracy theories and dangerous rhetoric? >> on think what we have to do is we have to condemn the violence. we have to do everything we can to make sure people feel comfortable about these elections. we've got to do everything we can to get people coupled at the selection, 90s could break free. fair. the votes will be counted. fairly they are not gonna be diluted. that is one thing i try to do with the nrcc, get people to make sure we are ready. people go to the, polls vote. go to the polls and be poll watchers. you can see that the election is going to be fair. we have to work on this. and, recycle get better every cycle. >> sophia, that does not make me feel safe or comfortable at all. >> that was not the clip i was referring to. that was not the finest moment in that segment that i watch this morning. that was absolutely not so subtle dog whistle against the election deniers that were -- mainstream media when it comes to paul pelosi. having his head bashed into being attacked with a hammer. but i want you guys to know, if you are not comfortable with the election, that we understand that that is a wink and a nod and that is not okay. before segment you didn't see it was unequivocal about the attack because we were so, yes but. there can be no but it has to be no this is wrong joe biden is the president, he was elected fair and square. and this time to move. on they are still not doing that. >> it is time for us to move on to break so we can go back and finish this conversation. do not go, anywhere as we look, eyesight continue this conversation after a break. on after a break don't like surprises? 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>> we know that former president obama is more popular than the current president, based on the polling that i've seen. he is wildly popular in the democratic party. he is also out there, i think, because he understands, and i've been talking to democratic strategist, they want about. they're there, say yes i understand you eight years. here but work in the need you out here to motivate people. because the polls are showing that republicans are having a lot of momentum behind them. i will also say he is out there because in 2010 when he was president, they had a really bad democrat senate. very bad amateur season where he lost control of the house. and it, really in some, ways hammered his presidency. he was unable to do the things that you want to do going forward, because he did not have good control in the house and the senate that he is to pass. thanks so i think we also put the fact that he is popular, and the faculty of some. experience he knows what is to be a president, when you cannot pass legislation only by executive order. so in some ways it tells you that they understand, the democrats, the issues of. hand obviously pressed about he is going to be. out there shifting his message and talking about social security. but i think it just shows you that obama has a bit of swagger, and that is what they want to see. democrats out there to motivate people. >> this is clearly something the administration wants. when you have an atm or like, that who is willing to go out there on the campaign trail and be on fire, like he was in wisconsin, you let him go. but congresswoman edwards, what do you think about the star power? the utility? of barack above the campaign trail? >> the former president was in his element. he has the ability, both to communicate a message, talk to people in a language that they understand, make them laugh. and then to excite the. those are all the things that democrats need to make sure the democratic voters show up in the polls, and that they vote. he doesn't remember, well, in his words, that shellacking. and he does not want president biden to experience that again. i think democrats are. right you put your best team on the field, and president obama's the best team. it is important for him to be out there. canada's one, about their voters want him out there. and if that is enough to get that extra one or 2% of, out to turn those votes, then i think it is the right thing to do. >> sophia, you've got former president barack obama out there firing up the base. i am just wondering, who fires up their base more? barack obama with the democratic, base or donald trump with the republican base? he is gonna hit the campaign trail and in closing hours of the midterm elections. >> i think it is both a. and obama certainly inspires, not just democratic voters, but independent voters who are what i call purple voters. people who are lifelong moderate republicans. never voted for a democrat before until obama in 2010 days. and i think on the trump side that french base but is really in that top campaign spired, but i think he turns off moderates and independent voters, i think obama gets the edge and states like georgia and other places that are going to be close. i think those independent voters, if they say trump, they might run for the hills. versus if they see obama, the might be more inclined to pull the dealer. >> when you think about, that donna? sophie's assessment? >> i agree. this race is going to be won by persuading independent voters. those suburban women who we spent so much time talking about. and there is, where i think, president obama has an edge over former president trump. look. i think the important thing here is going to be on the margins. that one or 2% of voters that fall within the independents vote. but we also need the base to show. so obama feels a lot of those categories. , frankly i've talked to a number of republicans or trump supporters. you have to do not want to see him out on the campaign trail. and so i think you've got to weigh. that but we give obama the edge on this one. >> yes strong, if i can see easily really quickly. here in virginia seven, i think it, is the candidate, the guy endorsed by, trump the republican, doesn't want to talk about this. it is a race against abigail spanberger. and i think that exactly got his point. a trump people want the endorsement. but they do not want to talk about the fact that we have -- >> republicans want to stay in time trump's good graces. and then of, course democrats are hoping that they can -- the situation is a bit better than what chuck schumer said to president biden, which is that they are looking, and democrats are looking in georgia thinking maybe herschel walker is going to have the. it maybe philadelphia is a bit better, and pennsylvania is a bit better. i think we will really see the answer to the very critical question, john, but you just post, on election day. who actually turns out? >> obama, again, was in michigan and wisconsin yesterday. he did not play the very best sound by. i am just gonna read. it obama. i'm getting old and gray. black lady behind him. you find that a -- can't say that sunday morning television. sophia, nelson -- thank you very. much if i seem a little out of sorts, it is because something happened last night that is cause for celebration. congratulations are in order for a frequent member of our sound off game. political white house correspondent eugene daniels and his partner nate stevens got married last night. i took that photo. we wish you the happy couple all the best. and one more, note like you want to send my good wishes and prayers to speaker pelosi and her family. we'll be right back. back. the lows of bipolar depression can take you to a dark place. latuda could make a real difference in your symptoms. latuda was proven to significantly reduce bipolar depression symptoms. and in clinical studies, had no substantial impact on weight. this is where i want to be. call your doctor about sudden behavior changes or suicidal thoughts. antidepressants can increase these in children and young adults. elderly dementia patients have increased risk of death or stroke. report fever, confusion, stiff or uncontrollable muscle movements, which may be life threatening or permanent. these aren't all the serious side effects. now i'm back where i belong. ask your doctor if latuda is right for you. pay as little as zero dollars for your first prescription. 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