for a second, it's not working electorally for him. his poll numbers, even as he gets more cruel, dark, and militias, they continue to fall. it's not working, but what to cornered right to do? they lash out. that's what we are seeing. >> and charles? >> i think kimberly's point about the need to speak plainly is so very critical here. and that's why i think the vice president's remarks are so important. there is a straight line -- going from reconstruction, all the way from two modern day looking, at 2007, when obama ran for president. some of the rhetoric that was allowed and given the space for false equivalency's that got us to this point. you factor in things like the changes in american education from no child left behind in the d emphasizing of a critical thinking for our students, all of this has coalesced into this moment. we have a space that they are trying to rewrite american history --