and it was vile. it was absolutely vile. we were called, as black people, called everything, animals and they talked about how we needed to be all killed. and it was just ridiculous. so i at that point a community group, the sunday supper committee, they launched a campaign in response to the ms. schiffanelli's campaign to say hey, let our children talk about race. this is happening across the country, and burying our heads in the sand isn't going to make it go away. go ahead. >> well, i was just going to say that there is this the irony first of all of using racism and racist attacks to demand that people stop talking about racism and insisting there is no racism that is kind of ironic. but i want to let people listen to hear how ms. schiffanelli sounds.