but that should be clear to everybody involved, that vladimir putin is escalating, possibly based on the understanding that the west fears triggering nuclear war because he is dropping language of his nuclear arsenal. at some point, what more can we do, understanding that this is not going to lead to nuclear war? >> ali, i don't lay awake at night thinking, oh boy, here comes a nuclear weapon. and frankly, nor should anyone. having said that, i got a call over the weekend from family members saying, admiral, should we be stocking iodine pills, which help you in the case of radioactive release? the answer is, no. vladimir putin is not going to reach for the apocalypse handle. he has a family, he has children. he deeply, truly loves this country. he is not out to end the world here. he's angry, he's bitter, but he's not crazy. he's not going to reach for the nuclear weapon. what we ought to be doing is taking a sensible amount of