it has gone down. fewer americans think trump bears a lot of responsibility for january 6th. what do you make of a poll like this? >> that is where leadership comes in. you beat the drum, you create the confusion, you depress the narrative. yeah, people tune out. they then begin to see everything to a political lens. and this is the risk, ali, that i think the biden administration and the january 6th commission have to deal with. the question of how to deal with pulling out of that purely political space. and get the american people to focus on