reality you live in up to the moment you take power again. and you imagine when you take power, your guy taking power will make it all true, correct the past, will sort everything out for you. that's the dream. i don't think -- i think it could work to get him close to the oval office. i think what republicans who think this way are not taking into account is that it's unlikely to work as a way to make him legitimate president because these methods of getting somebody into the oval office will be unacceptable to large swaths of the american public and many american institutions. >> right, which says one thing about whether he'll be viewed as a legitimate president. it says something else entirely whether we continue to exist as a coherent country under those circumstances. timothy snyder is the author of "on tyranny." thank you for your time and letting us turn to you on big nights like this. it's invaluable to your counsel. thanks. >> thanks for doing what you do. thank you, rachel. we'll be right back. stay with us. icine cabinet!