protesters, killing heather hire, and wounding a dozen more people, of those seven defendants who, refused to engage. we reported here that the judge essentially issued a default judgment against them and i know that the court will now act further to decide what's to dispensation of those guys, with sort of damages those guys have to pay for those who have a default putting out some. and explain what that means, because that's another big part of the next steps here. >> absolutely, there are seven defendants against whom we have claims of default. the courts are most likely to be guided by the jury's vote today, so i think it's substantial damage to the contents therrien punitive damages. as to james feels, the driver of the car. one extraordinary thing will happen in this verdict, is that james field was found to be part of a conspiracy with richard spencer, james spencer,