responsibility to share my story because unlike heather heyer, you know, i'm able to share my story as my own person and on my own behalf. luckily heather has her mother, susan and other folks around there to advocate on her behalf, but as a survivor and one of the lucky ones, i'm here to share my story. >> what should we understand -- i mean, obviously you're now a practicing civil rights lawyer yourself. you have been through this process through a very unusual circumstance given what you went through. what should we understand? what should the country understand about this strategy, about using civil litigation, in which the victim, as the plaintiff goes after the perpetrators through civil litigation to bankrupt them, make them literally pay for what they have done. how should we understand that in terms of its overall effectiveness against these kinds of crimes or behavior, but also what kind of difference it makes to victims?