to go after and silence source buzz to try to intimidate journalists who are doing this kind of work? >> well, that's right. harvey weinstein used a variety of private investigative firms to try to silence accusers and go after journalists as well. which in some ways was not that surprising to us. but the fact that he had used black cube, a firm that's made up of former israeli intelligence officials and agents who adopted fake identities to try to extract information from women who he thought might go public as well as reporters was like just jaw-dropping to us. ronan farrow was the first to break that news back in 2017. but you know, one of those contracts was basically a promise to those former israeli intelligence officials that they would be paid a $300,000 bonus if they could bring a stop to our investigation. >> specifically if your article wouldn't run. >> it was like a hit on our investigation. >> yeah. well, the investigation obviously was brought to fruition not only through your intelligence and your diligence