i had no right to overturn the election. the presidency belongs to the american people and the american people alone. and frankly, there is no idea more on american than the notion that any one person could choose the american president. under the constitution, i had no right to change the outcome of our election. >> so, mike pence told trump he was wrong. he told trump how democracy works. told trump that his impulse is on american. of course, it took more than a year to say it publicly, meanwhile, the republican party refuses to turn their backs on donald trump. today, the republican national committee center to have its own republican congressman, adam kinzinger of illinois, and republican congresswoman liz cheney of wyoming, for serving on the january 6th committee. the center states quote, representatives but cheney and canceling our are participating in a democrat-led prosecution of ordinary citizens engaged in legitimate political discourse. legitimate political discourse. i want to remind you exactly what the republican party is now calling a legitimate political discourse. on january 6th, members of the trump mob violently attacked members of the united states capitol police. members of the trump ahmaud proudly displayed a noose outside of the u.s. capitol. members of the trump ahmaud, carrying confederate flags through the halls of the united states capitol and members of the trump mob roamed the halls of the u.s. capital, chanting this. >> hang mike pence. hang mike pence. hang mike pence. >> clearly, none of this is a legitimate political discourse. but republicans refused to do wet mike pence did today and say, trump is wrong. they will do everything to protect themselves and donald trump from being held accountable for their actions on january 6th. take, for example, republican congressman and trump loyalist jim jordan. on october, jim jordan said this about his willingness to cooperate with the january six committee. >> are you willing to tell the select committee what you know about events leading up to -- >> i have nothing to hide. >> jim jordan has been hiding the truth. jim jordan has consistently ignored questions or been inconsistent in acknowledging when he spoke to donald trump on january 6th. >> i spoke with him that day, i think, after. i don't know if i spoke with him in the morning or not, i just don't know. i've talked to the president so many times, i can't even remember. of course i have talked to the president, i have been clear about that. i talked to him all the time. >> the january six committee is now in possession of records that prove jim jordan did speak with donald trump the morning of january 6th, the phone call lasted ten minutes. that afternoon, jim jordan objected to the certification of president joe biden's electoral college win as the trump mob attacked the capitol. the january 6th committee is closing in on donald trump and his allies in their investigation of the attack on the capitol. even if more republicans won't stand up and say, trump is wrong. leading off our discussion tonight, a democratic congressman alec -- swalwell of california, he has served as a house impeachment manager at trump's second impeachment trial. he is a member of the house intelligence and judiciary committee. thank you for coming to the last word. i would like to get your reaction to the -- idea of legitimate political discourse. >> well, look, if your neighbor came over and stepped on your porch, holding a knife, a gun, a machete and said that he wanted to talk, i don't think you would say, you know what's? we will settle this. it is a legitimate political discourse. no, you would say this is a violent interaction. and this party, by the way, they tweeted earlier today, we are the party of -- they are the party of cop killers. because that is who their former twice impeached president wants to pardon. they voted down 350 million in new police funding. they continue to disarm the police. they vote against the gold medals for the police officers who served that day. and we have to make that clear as we go to the ballot box. it is such a disgrace. it was a sham all along that they back to the blue because they have not back to the blue. if anything, they have bruised to the blue. they bruce their egos, they bruise the honor of the blue and, right now, i think that is more clear than ever. >> you know, mike pence said, flat out, trump is wrong about the power to overturn the election. but do you think any other republican will come out and say the same thing? >> yes, and they are to the january 6th committee, but we don't need mike pence to talk to a closed federal society ballroom. we need him to raise his right hand and do the right thing and tell this country what he saw in the days leading up to january 6th and what happened on the sixth. he is a centrally in the red zone. as we approach the super bowl. on the 20 yard line. he has already gone most of the distance and so, he would really do a service to his country, if you would just come forward and tell us what he saw under oath so that we can have a complete picture of what happened. >> we have to talk about jim jordan. because the january 6th select committee has records about his phone call with trump. how important is it that the committee has such granular details like phone records? >> it shows how much work they have put in with nearly 700 witnesses, 60,000 documents, it is a submarine mission right now and it is frustrating to your viewers because they have not seen everything. and they are hearing about it through leaks and press reports. but when it surfaces, it will show the country just exactly what donald trump intended to do, which was to overturn violently the election and the violent mob -- i just want to take a step back and just over my shoulder is the opening ceremonies of the olympics. and you watch that with such pride. it is in an authoritative state of china, but you watch with such pride. not because of what they have sacrificed to get there and their skills, but because of the country they represent, that we are decent, we choose voting over violence, freedom over authoritarianism, and we choose law and order over chaos. and everything that jim jordan, donald trump, kevin mccarthy and the republican party represents is the opposite of that. and that is what this election, that is what this january six committee is all about. showing and illustrating to the american people. >> well, one way you can show and illustrate what happened is through live televised hearings. so, which of the committee be doing in preparation for those live hearings in the coming months? >> recognize, you only get one shot. there is a real effort right now for the republicans to -- limit access to the ballot box, put barriers in place and then if they achieve the majority, completely shut down the january 6th commission. so, they have to move swiftly and when they have the opportunity to show the goods, they should do it in primetime, and they should do it with the most compelling witnesses, especially witnesses that may not necessarily have been ones that you liked in the past, but want to do a service to the country, make sure everyone knows what donald trump was doing and that he would do it again. >> congressman eric swalwell of california, thank you very much for coming to the last word. joining us now are -- resident scholar at the university of virginia center for politics. she is a senior adviser to the lincoln project and eugene daniels, white house correspondent for political and and and msnbc political contributor. thank you both very much for coming. tara, i will start with you, what do you make of republican censoring liz cheney and adam can singer for their involvement with the january 6th committee? >> i look at this and i say to myself, how far has the republican party fallen? every time i think that the floor can't get any lower, things like this happen. it's clear that the republican party has made a clear choice here. they have had plenty of opportunities to off ramp from the malignancy of trumpism, but no, they decided to double, triple, quadruple down. and today is another example. it is the epitome of this disgraceful past that the republican party is taking. and why i left it a year ago. it's a referee ball. the -- has made a choice. they made a choice to side with insurrectionists, with people who to filed our capital, with people who violently attacked our law enforcement officers who were protecting members of congress that day. who were doing their constitutional duty to certify a free and fair election of the next president. they sided with sedition assists. this is who the pro republican party is. there is nothing legitimate about what they, what happened that day, nothing. and yet, this is where the republican party has done. they are just hell-bent on going down this path of becoming a party of looms, of liars, and of lackeys. of donald trump and his ilk. and it doesn't get any more plain than what we saw today with the rnc. >> right, and eugene, senator mitt romney tweeted, shame falls on a party that would censure persons of conscience. so, how will that play in the party? >> not well. mitt romney is one of the very few voices in the party like this. the two that he talked about, can singer and cheney, himself and some others, especially in the senate, who have been a little bit more vocal because they have six years between their elections, right? so, they have less fear of donald trump. she is right, this is about donald trump and his grip on the party. their fear of his base, their fear of a man who is -- him endorsing a candidate in the primer -- this is also about choosing to back someone who said the quiet part out loud really recently, that he wanted mike pence to overturn the election of 2020. and this is after months of republicans trying to convince everybody that all trump wanted to do -- that was never true. we have mitt romney and also mike pence who are going to be on one side, with trump and the political apparatus of the party, a lot of -- on the other. i hate to use this term, but for the fight of the soul for the republican party. that is exactly what we're seeing. because anyone who has a social media can pull up dozens and dozens of videos to see what happened that day, see that it was not political illegitimate discourse. this is also from people who said, over and over, they clutch their pearls during the protest of 2020, right? the summer of 2020. and saying that the people who say they love law enforcement so much, as we watch them beat up and tased law enforcement. so, it is something that is nonsensical and i think a lot of people should call it out as we see because the american people deserve both political operatives, like tara, and reporters to say the truth so they know what is going on. >> and you know, tara, i'm just wondering, because right now, the republican party seems to totally embrace the big lie. and the big lie is being espoused by donald trump. so, i'm wondering, will being rid of trump be enough to turn the party around? or is the big lie so baked in that no matter who the standard bearer of the party is, it is still going to be going down this very dangerous route? >> yeah, it's part of the litmus test now. the litmus test of the republican party used to be where you start a national security, on tax reform, on -- judges. very legitimate political discourse, right? that is out the window. litmus test now is whether you believe in this absurd, dangerous lie that there was fraud in the election. and anything that donald trump seems to spout. this is so shameful. these people have no shame. and the american people are politically homeless, like myself, who are conservatives, are looking at a party destroying itself. and not only is it destroying itself, they've are becoming a clear and present danger to our democracy. because what they are spouting and what they are supporting and putting on a platform, is authoritarian its nature. it is anti-democracy. so, there is a choice in this country for people, it is either a tort therein-ism, or democracy. and the republicans have clearly made a choice of what side they are on here. >> we have 30 seconds left. just wondering, any reaction to this from the white house. on or off the record. >> behind the scenes, absolutely. off the record -- but i will say, they see this, all of this, as a danger to not just the white house or the presidency but more importantly, to democracy. they do see it as a larger fight and that is why we have seen president biden talk about this a little bit more, but voters and democracy scholars, people who really studied this, want them to do more publicly, whether we see that -- >> all right, eugene daniels, tara -- , thank you both very much. still ahead tonight, republicans seem to be rooting for bad news on the economy, but what they have instead was great news for the country. and, later, is one of trump's biggest allies in the senate at risk of losing his seat? 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>> yes, you are right. there was a lot of doubt, but it was a good surprise, that so many jobs, 460,000 jobs were added, and nearly every sector of the economy, except for construction which usually isn't a strong in the winter anyway, i think people miss -- and number one, we are finally starting to see some evidence of resiliency and the economy, people are learning how to live with this virus, that does not mean that january was pain free, you and i have talked a lot about the date here, and who struggled, what many parents went through, we also saw many workers who were temporarily furloughed during the month, so there are real hardships that people went through. but i think that people are really focused on the future. they are seeing some optimism here, companies are still hiring because they believe the economy will continue to strengthen, and more and more workers, we even saw some retirees who have retired early coming back into the labor force, seeing and taking advantage of this historic labor market that we have. >> so, what it sounds like is that there is momentum here, well that momentum continue? >> that is a big question. i certainly saw a lot of encouraging signs today, from many other economists, not just political folks, but a couple things that jumped out at me, we continue to see a strong rebound in the restaurant and leisure and hospitality sector, we hope that will continue, particularly if people start to do more traveling again in the spring. i have also been watching the daycare and the public education sector. those really hit hard, they were struggling to rebound for much of last, year we did see an uptick in hiring, it was not huge but a couple thousand workers entering the daycare sector is a lot better than what we were seeing a few months ago. and here is a good one, there were even some hiring in dry cleaners. another industry that was certainly devastated in the pandemic. >> wow, well not for me. i have to ask this question, because for months now, the new numbers come out, but then the revisions from previous numbers, i just reported 709,000 more jobs were created last year than previously reported. why the revisions upward the last few months? >> i am really glad that you asked that, because you do hear some people say what is going on here, there is some sort of black box, or tampering with the data, that is not what is happening. i just want to be clear, that our statistical agencies are the best in the world, they have put out very transparent processes for how they collect, they do surveys about businesses, and workers, and tried to get these polls to the economy. here is a big issue, every month when we report these jobs, they are marked as preliminary. but before the pandemic, the preliminary numbers were often pretty close to the final numbers. unfortunately, like so many things during the pandemic, it has been a lot harder to get those realtime estimates that we are used to, and we have unfortunately had to do with a bigger revision than normal. so, it is not unfortunate that we can't get it as fast as we want, just like we can't get new cars quite as fast as we want, and we just can't get dishwashers quite as fast as we want, it is kind of a similar thing going on here with our labor statistics. but the big takeaway that you and i were talking about earlier today, is what we saw last year, we saw that there was a big surge in hiring this summer, and then a big decline. it is because into the fall and winter, the good news is that is not what happened, instead it has been a really steady adding about a half 1 million jobs, month after month, after month, i would rather see thought on a day. >> right, heather long, my colleague at the washington post editorial board, which is why we were talking earlier today, thank you very much for coming to the last word. joining us now, democratic congressman, he read -- which includes a city of scranton, he is also the co-chair of the house democratic policy and communications committee. congressman, thank you for coming to the last word. today -- >> nice to be with you, jonathan. >> today the president said americans are getting, quote, clobbered by gas and food prices. is there a disconnect between these strong job numbers, and the impact that the economy is having on your constituents? >> there is no question, america's economy is coming back. i mean, with 4% unemployment, you know that is the lowest it has been in almost two generations. we have gdp over the last 12 months that went through the roof. you know, we have the last -- the jobs report that came out this week, holy cow! i mean, another half million jobs. i like others point a lot. the encouraging part, it has been study. it has been continuous. and so, we continue to come back. but you are right, we have challenges. i mean, you can't ignore that there are rising prices, and they heard. and you know, it is what you get when you come out of a pandemic, rising prices. it is happening in europe, it is happening in asia, here in america we depend on the federal reserve, to hold rising prices from getting out of hand. we expect them to. and congress, we can do our part as well. today, we did a big step towards that goal. the america competes act is something that will spur american manufacturing. it will protect our supply chains. it will create a lot of manufacturing jobs in this country, and that is how we inoculate our selves from this kind of, you know, dependency on china, and imports, and the things that trap us in this kind of a situation, and create that kind of inflation. so, congress took a big step forward on that. i am very proud of that bill. >> you know, congressman, today the president said the american rescue plan, which had no republican support contributed to this spike in jobs. looking to the midterms, are democrats getting that message to the american people? are your constituents hearing that message? >> well jonathan, the big deal is the infrastructure investment and jobs act. that we passed, you know, something that is a really big deal for america, it is something we haven't done since the eisenhower administration, invest in ourselves. believe in ourselves. you know, building up our hard infrastructure, our roads, our bridges, our rail systems, our water systems, our source systems. and expanding broadband internet from rural places. we did that. it was a huge win for this country, and it is something that has not happened since the greatest generation, you know they came back from world war ii, jonathan, as if they had not sacrificed enough. and they invested in this country, and they left us a portfolio of assets that are companies were able to benefit from, getting products to market better, and faster, and cheaper, and fresher. things that, what would ever make us think that we did not have to keep them up? maintain them? improve them? expand them? we have to do these things. it is a wonderful thing that we are getting the story out. democrats across the country are getting the story out that we did this. democrats delivered for the people. and the country, and the only wonder, jonathan, is where where the republicans? there were 200 of them that voted no. and when i am wondering is, what happened to the party of eisenhower, they owe us an explanation. >> congressman matt cart, with pennsylvania, thank you so much for joining us tonight. >> thank you. >> coming up, could the u.s. senate and up losing one of his pro trump republicans? we will talk to the wisconsin democrat trying to deny senator ron johnson a third term in office. n a third term i office office sorry, one sec. doug blows a whistle. 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>> oh, wisconsin has long been ready to move on from him. he has forgotten about -- he has forgotten who he was elected to represent. people are forgetting about him. i'm excited about the grassroots momentum that this campaign has behind us. we are 27,000 donors, and average contribution of 46 bucks. and the most common donor is a teacher, which, being a retired teacher, i'm sure my mother is proud of that. more importantly, our efforts to defeat him will be the strength of the grassroots. and that is why you are able to join us -- >> so, lieutenant governor, alma biloxi and meeting with the my pillow guy and this memo -- ron johnson said the washington post, after a senate hearing, quote, myself and my staff continue to gather information and consider allegations, that is why i joined the meeting. he also states -- received a copy of the memo on january 13th. a spokes person said that he took no further actions and he did not become aware of the memo until the most recent inquiry. what is your reaction to that? >> well, i'll tell you, this is not surprising. and it is not shocking. it is sad, it's unfortunate. and for ron johnson to be a conspiracy theorist -- this is a conspiracy to suppress the vote in the state of wisconsin. that is why he has called for the republican controlled legislature to take over a federal elections. we are not going to sit here and act like he didn't have anything to do with it. he has done the best that he possibly could to provide every excuse for those -- so, the idea that he was active in this beforehand is something that we should all have expected, as unfortunate -- and people are sick of this. they are frustrated with this. there are so many needs that have to be met in terms of rebuilding this middle class and in terms of supporting our family farmers in wisconsin. and also, our small businesses that continue to struggle throughout this pandemic. these are the things that ron johnson spent his time dealing with instead of the real issues that people are experiencing in wisconsin. and it is time for something better than that. >> real quick, because you listen to republicans and they say, the american people, they are not paying attention to january 6th and what's the select committee is doing and the investigations. as you are campaigning for the senate seat, what are you hearing from constituents? >> people are concerned about the threats to democracy. that is why the first plan we released as democracy and accountability -- to make sure that people who worked elections -- to make sure that the rights of the vote will be protected for communities all across america as they are constantly threatened by people like ron johnson, whose cronies and allies in the state legislatures all across the united states of america -- this work is critically important. what's going to happen with voting rights? are you going to be the person that helped deliver it? and i say, of course -- because this is long overdue. and for every day that goes by, when there is no action on voting rights -- a person like ron johnson gets more powerful. republicans and congress get more powerful. because they are able to do the work that will -- and also empower state legislatures across the country to implement more extreme restrictions on voting. and we have seen this for at least the past decade, even longer, and it is something that people are not going to tolerate. we need action now. -- help us expand voting rights across this country. it is too important for us to not act. >> wisconsin's lieutenant governor, mandela barnes, running for u.s. senate, thank you very much for joining us tonight. republicans have made critical race theory their new political -- but what are students really learning in the one classroom where it is being taught? 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do you remember. congressman jamie raskin was on the couch, watching the election returns with his 25 year old son tommy, who is back home and attending law school remotely during the pandemic. >> hi. you staying up are going to sleep? i don't think so. i wouldn't put money on it. yeah. okay. all right. love you, keto. by. my kids are so freaked out. it's going to be a long night. trump is going to be suing -- we are going to win this narrowly and trump will be fighting every step of the way. i mean, buckle up. we will be fighting about this until we get into the new congress. we will be fighting about it until january 6th. >> that conversation is extraordinary to witness now after what we all watched transpire on january 6th. because two weeks after that conversation, congressman raskin would be leading the second impeachment of donald trump for his incitement on january 6th. and he would be doing it with his son no longer in this world. tommy raskin died on new years eve. on january 4th, the raskin family shared their loss in a statement on the remarkable life of tommy raskin. on the last hellish brutal day of that got awful miserable year of 2020, when hundreds of thousands of americans and millions of people all over the world died, we also lost our dear, dear beloved son, hannah and tabatha's beloved, irreplaceable brother, a radiant light in this broken world. he left us this farewell note on new year's eve day. please forgive me. my illness one today. please look after each other, the animals, and the global pour for me. all my love, tommy. on january 6th, congressman raskin, a former constitutional law professor, return to capitol hill to do is constitutional duty and vote to certify the results of the 2020 election. and this unthinkable turn of events in congressman raskin's life at the dawn of 2021 was captured by congressman raskin's longtime friend, filmmaker madeleine carter. madeleine carter joins us now. she is the director of love and the constitution, which premiers this sunday at 10 pm eastern on msnbc. the film is a powerful portrait of finding purpose in grief. but it is not the story you expected to be telling, covering congressman raskin. tell us how you came to be there with your camera when this happened. >> well, originally, when jamie and donald trump actually both started their first terms in office in january 2017, and that is when jamie became my congressman, and pretty much from day one, jamie started being a trump god fly and i thought i would really like to make a film about jamie and trump. and it took him many months to agree to do it. and then, i started filming, july 4th of 2018. and i thought it would be about a one-year project. >> until july 2018 -- not a one-year project. and madeleine, what was it like as a filmmaker and a friend to be there for something so intimate and tragic? >> yeah, i mean, of course none of us saw this coming with tommy and when i heard that tommy had died, i stayed away because as a documentarian, i was just really worried about exploiting the situation and so, i just stayed away for about ten days. and then, i noticed that jamie was starting to do interviews and so, i called him and said i would like to talk to you. so, really, my instinct was to give him some space and try not to be exploitative of the situation. of course, the situation completely change the storyline of my film. >> you knew congressman raskin as i mentioned in the intro, before this. what did you learn about him in making this film? >> well, i guess i became -- i mean, the reason i wanted to make this film is because i saw jamie as somebody who was trying to save democracy for the rest of us. and what i learned is really just more of the same. he is the real deal. a genuine guy. he is completely honest. he is my model politician. so, i kind of knew he was like that before i started. so, i would say, i just became more sure of it. >> you are thrilled to get that confirmation. >> exactly. >> madeleine carter, thank you very, very much for joining us tonight. love and the constitution debuts sunday at 10 pm eastern on msnbc. that is tonight's last word. i am jonathan -- i will see you sunday morning at 10 am on the sunday show, where i will be joined by a house majority leader sandy hoyer, i hope you will joined us. the 11th hour starts pretty much maybe actually right now. >> good evening, i am christian thing, day 381 of the biden administration. more than a year after the insurrection, mike pence makes a seismic public break with his former boss. this afternoon, and remarks before the federalist society, the former vice president finally, and firmly rejected donald trump's repeated false claims about pence having the authority to change the 2020 election results. it was an extraordinary moment, as pence were called the violent siege on the capitol. he went on to forcefully rebuke the man whom he devotedly