station where people can't even get on these trains. what's it like? >> so thousands of people, including children and women, are waiting at the station. and many of them are sitting on star form like it's because they have been waiting for hours and we don't know when the trains are going to come or severely delayed, and tickets are meaningless. so you have to be ready to ride up on the platform as soon as possible because the, everyone will try to get in and there's only so much space inside. so they'll try to get innocent is the door opens, so it's quite chaotic. there's children crying as well because adults are fighting, people are pushing each other out. there were air sirens going on as well. so it's a very chaotic atmosphere. but, we are all doing the best to, you know, get through this situation. >> mikaela, ellison just said, it for the most, part ukrainian men are staying behind and fighting. it's up to the mothers and grandmothers. and we keep thinking, oh, look they got on the, train they