tax. your position now has been to pull away from an immediate enactment of medicare for all. first three years of your presidency at least would be a kind of build-in, phase-in. what would be the difference at this point? the real legislative reality difference between the warren first term president health care plan and the biden first term health care plan? >> so let me start with the first day health plan. and that is i'll do everything a president can do on her own to help people get relief because my overall philosophy is i want -- people are struggling with health care bills. millions of people who didn't have prescription filled, didn't have the lump checked out at the doctor because they can't pay the copay, can't pay the deductible, it's not covered even if they have insurance. so my view is let's give the maximum number of people the maximum amount of help in the shortest period of time.