struggling to get on its feet as a thriving democracy and push back on maligning intent and russian aggression. >> it's a fair impression to have to watch donald trump from a distance to just assert that he doesn't care about ukraine or he doesn't care about a whole host of things that we all seem to feel he doesn't care about. it's something else, i imagine, congressman, to hear from someone who was quoting someone who was just on the phone with donald trump who was saying, no, he doesn't give a crap about ukraine. >> not his exact words, as you well know, lawrence. you could have heard a pin drop during the deposition during that passage. >> i'm going to read that passage now for our audience as it emerges in the actual deposition testimony and the questioning with the chairman. on friday night we had a version of this from the opening statement but there's more here. the chairman said, what led you to believe that the president didn't give a crap -- and i'm cleaning that up -- a crap about ukraine? that's an interesting way to