downward spiraling scoff law. rick and jonathan, i know anyone who knows george will knows what it takes to push him to that point, especially for republicans to have pushed him to that point. rick, go ahead. >> it's like, you know, don't make george will angry. lawrence, the point you highlighted in that quote from george, this is a party that has to learn a hard, sharp lesson. it is not going to learn unless there's pain involved at this point. it needs a sharp smack. >> jonathan, what george will is saying, he doesn't think they're going to learn it if they lose a close one. if they were to lose a close presidential election or if they were to lose the senate, you know, by one seat or something like that, he thinks they have to get wiped out. >> and this is one of the arguments for a moderate, not to say that i necessarily embrace