and that rarely happens and things often spill out. but it is a pre occupation that he has. he wanted jeff sessions, his first attorney general, to go after leakers. leakers were a problem. they needed to be investigated and gone after. and you know, it is a recurring issue that he has had throughout his entire presidency. >> please stay with us. we're joined now in the conversation by ned price, a former cia analyst and director and spokesperson for the national security council in the obama administration. an msnbc contributor. and hal rains is with us, the executive editor of the "new york times" and an msnbc contributor. and ned price, i wanted to get your reaction to the reporting that there could be a second whistleblower coming forward to back up the first whistleblower,