Grilling obviously. You have the fancy title. You are the chief information officer. That wasnt a small mistake. This was a monumental mistake. The chairman attacked Obama Administrations rollout. Daryl issa wasted no time. Lets say he hasnt been happy with the response. Will what happens next . We now have breaking news. The long awaited enrollment numbers. How many people have enrolled. Put some of them up on the screen for you. Just over 106,000 signed up. Does that mean the republicans stop . Please dont answer yet. Let fight begin. We have got to get the website up and running. We believe site will be working smoothly by the end of the month. Democrats are confident. Nobody in this room. Nobody in this country. This is not about politics. This is barbaric politics. There is a brewing revolt tonight among democrats in the house of representatives according to at least one unnamed democrat who told nbc news today there is a brewing revolt among house democrats, the white house never has our back on these types of things. They have no plan b, no apparent fix. Theyre clueless on top of that. Bill clinton sure as hell didnt make it any easier for this white house with his comments. They need to figure something out by friday. Fast. On friday, House Republicans will introduce a bill that will allow people who have had their insurance plans canceled to keep those plans if they still exist for one year. Even if the coverage is below the required minimum under the Affordable Care act. That will surely attract some democratic votes if president obama and democrats dont offer an alternative plan for those democrats to the support. Earlier today, health and Human Services secretary, Kathleen Sebelius told reporters since october 1, 106,185 people have enrolled. 79,000 enrolled through state exchanges. And about 27,000 enrolled through that federal exchange. That has the had so many problems. That is about 21 of what the Obama Administration had expected to enroll before the exchanges were open. Another 975,407 people have completed applications for insurance but have not yet made the purchase. Many of those people are shopping for family plans. And the administration estimates that is coverage for 1. 5 Million People. An additional 396,261 people have signed up for medicaid. Secretary sebelius insisted today enrollment under the Affordable Care act is comparable to early days of enrollment under the Health Care Reform law that massachusetts enacted in 2006 under governor romney. We can reasonably expect the numbers will grow substantially over the next five months as they did in massachusetts which enrolled only. 3 . Or 123 people in its first month. We know from experience in the bay state that people tend to research and consider their options talk things over with their families before making a purchase. Joining me now, from the washington post, and professor of economics at mit who worked on the massachusetts Health Care Reform law and the Affordable Care act. Okay, professor, it is up to you to tell us how the Affordable Care act is doing, compared to the early days of the massachusetts law. The big issue, it is too early to make a strong conclusion. The bottom line is people dont sign up until they have to. We are doing better than massachusetts. As secretary sebelius said. 3 in massachusetts. 1 1 2 of the federal level. Goal of 7 million. That is not a relevant comparison. Relevant comparison happen in march. We need new focus on not the week to week and daytoday, to date. Professor, quickly, what do you make of roughly all most four times people enrolling in medicaid than than purchasing with or without subsidies, the approximately sees from the exchanges. Policies from exchanges. We had a program that was free, got higher enrollment than the Program People had to pay. People soon up for what its free first. Once again as the deadline approaches for the mandate. People rush in, Healthy People coming in towards the march 31st date. E. J. Dion, democrats listening to the professor, professor gruber here tonight, democrats in the house are not staying calm about this. I thought finally, republicans in disarray had replaced the old democrats in disarray stories. But it looks like were become to the old story. The president did say what the president said. And there was no, there were no kind of qualifications. He said, period, at the end of then sense t when you do Health Care Reform. You change Insurance Markets. There was going to be Cost Shifting here. And some policies, both junk policies that werent worth much would go off the market. You have people with premium increases. The question now is how can you fix this, or can you fix this, without discombobulating the health care market. It would be better if democrats were calm. It would be better if they waited to see how some of the things shake out. And worst change would be to make a quick change in panic that might wreck the whole thing. Then i can say that because i am not on the ballot next year. And a lot, all of these guys are. And women are on the ballot next year. So theyre very nervous. Well, democrats met with Administration Officials today. House democrats met with officials to talk about it. Patrick murphy, democrat, chastised the meeting. Voices were raised. A little frustration. People focused on making sure we get this right. This mornings meeting was frustrating. Many are upset with rollout of the Affordable Care act. In light of the vote we will have on friday, there is still some learning to do, on what exactly that entails. But the white house says that theyre going to come up with some sort of alternative to talk about and a lot of us are anxious to see that. Jonathan gruber, the president said this last week in his interview, with chuck todd here on next. That he was looking at some kind of fix to the law. This was before bill clinton made the same kind of suggestion. But, democrats in the house have no idea what that its. What would you suggest to the president and the democrats as a fix for this. I would first of all, say there is no easy fix. Because this isnt a huge problem. We are talking about a small slice of americans. A political problem more than substantive problem. The most important fix its get the website working. The administration always figured there would be some losers, they figured at this point. There would be so many winners to point to that they could make the overwhelming case for the law. The web site glitches have take any way their best argument against their anecdotes of the losers. We dont have. Ultimately, many times as many winners to point to. The best thing they can do is get the website working and get the number of winners up. So that they can have positive stories to point to. Professor, i agree with you. In any economics classroom. This is not a huge problem. As you know in the back room with elected democrats, politically, this its a huge problem. Especially for democrats in states like florida, tennessee, others in the house, who are very worried about this. They need, theyre saying they need to hear something from the president , something real, or theyre going to move and vote with this, some of them vote with the republican bill friday. Right. And as, the shame of it would be. Act in panic. As a percentage of the whole. We are not talking about a large percentage. You are talking, correct me if i am wrong, professor. There could be in the end, up to 4 Million People who will have some real changes in their health care. These are belter off people. Than worse off people. They probably get more press attention. And the press kind of naturally gravitates to stories of things going wrong. People facing problems. You dont, you are not hearing anything at all about all of the governors who are depriving five to six Million People, medicaid, by not going for the medicaid buy in, the medicaid expansion. And i think there is a little lesson here that all the people are signing up for medicaid. Yes as professor gruber said it its free. Also a lot simpler than trying to have subsidies in a complicated insurance market. The politics of defending complex legislation is never seas. Remember what these democrats are worried about is losing an election next year. To a republican who will then replace them, and not just vote for the correction to the bill. They will be more votes to actually completely real, repeal it. So, professor thats the challenge. What i heard jay carney say, they seem to be thinking of something narrowly targeted so it would help some people who have lost their policies and, through some cracks in the law now, can not find something affordable where they live. To replace it. That would be an even Smaller Group than what people are generally talking about here . Yeah, i think, look, there is no free lunch. As e. J. Said. If you are going to reform Insurance Markets. So that everyone has to pay one fair price for insurance. Which is by the way what the majority of americans want. Vast majority want fair, nondiscriminatory Insurance Markets to. Do that. That means everyone has to pay the same price. That means some Healthy People are going to have to pay more. You cant have a world where no one pays more, some people pay less. That cant happen. Some people are going to have to pay more. That is the speech that was never made by any democrat supporting the Affordable Care act. That little passage that you said, that you said. Some people will have to pay more. Thats right. Now we are in the situation with unhelpful comments by democrats, president clinton. In that situation, the line for president obama is whats the most he can do to be responsive to this population without messing of the goals of the law. Something like the upton bill would fundamentally undercut this law with allowing Healthy People to stay out of the pool. You will induce insurers to raise the rates in 2015 and undercut the law. The president needs to find a way, to address the peoples concerns. E. J. Dion, for those of us there, in 1983, 1984. Watching president clinton fail to get any legislation brought to a vote in either the House Chamber or in the senate. Managed to get some forms through committee. But in the clinton bill, none of the people in question, that we are talking about tonight would have been allowed to keep their substandard insurance. It didnt work out so well. Because of that because there were no warnings. You really have a choice this week of bad policy versus dangerous politics. Because to disrupt the markets now, would just be to throw in the towel. Thats why the upton bill is so clever. Because the it sound very reasonable. But it would actually undercut the whole structure of obama care. But you cant let the democrats in vulnerable districts go out there without the cover of some fix that would help at least some people. E. J. Dion, jonathan river. Go ahead, jonathan. If i could jump in. One last point. The election is not until november. We didnt have to react. If by march things arent working well. Lets give them coverage. We are overreacting now. E. J. , jonathan. Thank you for joining us. Thank you. Thank you. 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There is no clause that says, except when that president is a democrat. Republicans these days dont seem to like that. They keep looking for ways to keep this president from doing his job. So far they have shut down the government. They have filibustered people has nominated to fill out his administration. And they are now filibustering judges to block him from filling any of the vacancies with highly qualified people. We need to call out these filibusters for what they are. Naked attempts to nullify the results of the last president ial election. To force us to govern as though president obama hadnt won the 2012 election. Well, president obama did win the 2012 election. By 5 million votes. If republicans continue to filibuster these highly qualified nominees for no reason other than to nullify the president s constitutional authority, then senators, not only have the right to change the filibuster rules, senators have a duty to change the filibuster rules. At least one republican welcomed the possible rule change suggested by senator warren. Charles grassley said they would turn the rule to their advantage. If the democrats are bent on changing the rules. Then i say go ahead. There are a lot more scalias and thomases out there wed love to put on the bench. Crystal ball, there is Elizabeth Warren, who, herself, was effectively denied a nomination by the threat of the senate doing this filibuster stuff on her to. See her out there fighting them on this is just a perfect revenge. It is fabulous to see her there. Such a great, strong voice. Not only because she was essentially blocked through the process. But the person they ended up wanting to go with and going with richard was block ford two years. To be head of the agency she got off the ground. Once reid cut a deal, they were able to get him cuts close to her. And the thing you see with Elizabeth Warren, she is not there to be a senator, not enamored with power and prestige of being a senator. She has an agenda. She wants to get things done. Thats why she is there. She is unafraid to challenge the institution of the senate. She is not all about being a senator. She is all about being there working on behalf of the people and working on behalf of an effective government. Jonathan, i have slowly come around to the Elizabeth Warren position, held by some of the newer democrats in the senate. You know, i all way had that more, you know, established senate view. Dont want to change this rule. When your party is in the minority. You are going to want to be able to use it. But on nominations i think they have really got to do it. We have hit this unprecedented road block. Nuclear option what we are talking about here, the thing that you never want to do. You figure that reasonable people wouldnt allow a situation to get to that point, where you would just blow everything up, just to get some nominations through. As she lined, talked about in her, her, floor speech. We have been talking on, on the airways for months now. The republicans on capitol hill in the senate, when it comes to nominations. In the house when it comes to everything else. They have said no to everything. If you are Elizabeth Warren or any of the other senators who go to washington with the idea of ge