that told me, oh, that i something i should be paying attention to when th indictment comes out we are so focused on hush mone payments that, there might b bigger, legal concepts and legal words like rico that might not mean much to every day citizens, even - law and order folks, for lawyers like katie, it would b like an alarm. a siren. if that is the case. >> and we don't want to forget that is why jen inside we're talking about it today on judg show, we don't want to forge all of the legwork that ha been done with the peril investigations between the new york attorney general, letitia james, and cy vance, when he was holding office as the ne york da. there were having an information share. -- same investigators so because of that evidenc share, a lot of us wer wondering, gosh, that seem like such a strong case. the over inflation of assets deflation of the value o assets it is there for the picking. but is it what it is going t be seen? -- superseding indictment

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