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MSNBC The Cycle February 8, 2013

This could be a recordbreaking storm for them. New york citys probably going to be in the 12 to 18inch range. Here in boston, we are under blizzard warnings now. Blizzard conditions expected with the prolonged time of wind and heavy snow. The snow is really picking up in boston right now. The radar showing its all snow. Temperatures there below freezing and the timing is such that the snow will continue to pick up over the next few hours. By nightfall, probably two to four inches of snow. Blizzard conditions this evening. Probably 25 to 40 hello mileher hof sustained winds and through the night and even rising to 35 to 60mileperhour range. 12 to 18 inches more falling and then tomorrow morning beginning to see it taper off and additional five inches could fall and blizzard conditions for a while longer, perhaps even after the snow tapers off and visibility will be very low. Well continue to watch all of new england, as well as new york city, which is under that blizzard threat, as well. Youre under a blizzard warning from new york northward and out toward long island and seeing the possibility of gusty winds developing already the snow falling and continuing to pick up so the timing for new york city is a mixture of snow and rain although thats now turned over to snow just about everywhere in the new york city area. About an inch of snow, the winds gradually picking up and then tonight well see that pick up to eight to 12 inches of snow, blizzard conditions developing with winds gusting to 50 Miles Per Hour and then tomorrow it will begin to die down just a bit and as the snow tapers off, continuing to see blowing and drifting snow as the winds could still gust higher than that 20 to 30mileperhour range and city officials taking this seriously and we need to make preparations and just stay home, hunker down and stay off the roads. Back to you. Absolutely. Nick walker, thank you. Now to the weather channels paul goodloe down the road from us in messy times square. Reporter yes. We are starting to see and then range midday and now changing back over to snow. Sometimes sleet mixing in, as well. This is the calm before the storm and perhaps lulling people in to, oh, its not going tock as bad as you are talking about. Its still early. The storm is getting closer and stronger as it moves towards us. You can see theres still quite a bit of people out here in times square. We havent seen as much snow as people were talking about but remember we are talking about a Long Duration snow event. Really getting going, probably right around rush hour in to tonight and overnight, as well. So if you come back to us, say, 8 00, 9 00 tomorrow morning, we could be dealing with maybe 10, 12, 18 inches of snow here in manhattan. Of course, seeing more north and even east of the city. Long island will see potentially that twofoot amount of snow, as well. Again, some of the snow cut down initially with mixing and changing over with rain but just north of here, temperature at white plains just gotten to 32. Been below that and snow all day and the roads are much more difficult to travel further away from the city as you get, also further away from the rain snow line weve been dancing with earlier today. Again, this winter storm really hasnt even begun across new york and thats the key. The mayor was talking about it. Mayor of new york city. The governor of connecticut. The governor of massachusetts. Theyre all talking about hunker down. Basically, shelter in place. Ride this one out. Good news is it is happening on a friday afternoon. Friday night. So most people are not working this weekend. And again, most schools are not in session over the weekend, as well. Good timing on that. We havent seen anything yet in terms of winter storm and hopefully people wrap up the day and the travel because it will get pretty bad here. Just last hour or so, we had a wind gust to laguardia, 44 Miles Per Hour. Thats about five, six miles where the crow flies. We are somewhat protected here and expecting winds gusting maybe close to 40 Miles Per Hour so what will fall will be blowing back over the streets after theyre plowed so this is a Long Duration event. We are looking at maybe 1,700 Flights Canceled here of the 3 airports here in new york city alone. The airlines are preparing and this could be a type of storm to linger in terms of people getting back to where theyre going and traveling and lingering in to this coming weekend. Back do you. Paul, thank you so much. North to new england. Expected to get hit the hardest. Nbcs ron mott in providence, rhode island. Reporter hey there, krystal. Beautiful Winter Wonderland behind me. Not so beautiful on the roadways. A lot of folks heeded the warnings and gone home or stayed home today which is a very good thing. Traffic here in the capital of rhode island pretty light all day long. The governor at 1 00 sent all of the nonemergency state workers home for the weekend, telling them to get with their families and ride this thing out in to the safety of their homes like in new york and massachusetts. Up in to maine. The big concern going in to tonight, the winds to see and how that might affect the trees and power lines going down and power going down and asking folks really to hunker down, get the flashlights and batteries ready, not so much the candles because the last thing to see is to see fires coming on the backside of this storm if the power does, in fact, go out. Here in rhode island theyre expecting anywhere from two to two and a half feet of snow. I had a gentleman here working for the state said he cant remember the last time they had a snow event here in providence where a foot of snow or more fell since about the late 90s and this is you know, hearty here in new england but a long time since theyve had a good snow event like were expecting to see. In massachusetts, 3 30, about 15 minutes or so, 20 minutes, the nbta with the trains and subways in the boston area will turn the keys off and shut the system down and then at 4 00 governor patrick ordered everyone off the streets except for those essential personemergency persoo get the roadways prepared with icesalt mixtures and then the snow and then the plows behind that. Its a long night here in rhode island, up in to boston and in to maine as a lot of folks want to come out and see this big snow event but the officials are saying please, please, please stay in the house tonight. Back to you guys all right. Ron mott in providence, thank you so much. Excuse me. And now, over to professor kornacki for some context what . May not have been alive 35 years ago but the memory was taking notes on the blizzard of 78. Steve . Thats right. We just had ron talking about no one remembers the last time providence had, you know, more than a foot of snow. Late 90s. Talking more than two feet of snow in providence, rhode island. I think you have to go back to the blizzard of 78 and the eerie thing of the timing, 35 years ago this week. And this storm was truly epic. It was it was a northeast storm. Go to atlantic city, new jersey, 20 inches of snow there. New york city shut down. But really, it was eastern massachusetts, rhode island, parts of connecticut. This thing was truly a monster. In massachusetts, you had up to four and a half feet of snow in some places. You had wind at 70 Miles Per Hour in boston. 100 Miles Per Hour in cape cod. You had 2,100 homes destroyed. 29 people in massachusetts that were killed by this thing. So obviously, it was a serious storm but it was also something if youre 40 or over and youre from new england, youre still talking about this and telling people about this and you remember this. Under 40, you grew up hearing about it from those people. I have had i grew up in massachusetts. Fascination with the storm and this week i went and looked for old pictures. Take a look. You know, this is well, this is here we go. This is what i wanted. Route 128. This is the big highway, the belt around boston. People literally had to abandon their cars. Rush hour traffic. It started coming down and it just didnt stop and it piled up and the traffic moving too slow and had to get out of the cars and leave and the cars on the highway for three days. Duval patrick, governor of massachusetts, today shutting down traffic on the roads in massachusetts. Well, the governor of massachusetts in 1978 had to do the same thing. I mean, this was a result. Days after the storm, people out there retrieving the cars. Take a look. The next shot here we have here, down on the boston. The cleanup. Theres a great story, though. The old Boston Garden, the sports arena, in boston, you know, closed a few years ago but it was arrive in 1978. They were having a College Hockey tournament. The four boston schools and playing the first, you know, first two games that night. Got wrapped up at midnight as the storm at the height of the storm and people got 200 people stranded at the Boston Garden for three days. Very boston thing. Theyd rather have hockey than go home, i guess. I think we have another shot of this is not the one i was expecting. Whdh, the old radio station. Okay. These are people Cross Country skiing. This is after the storm. Roads are still shut down. If that face looked familiar, that was the governor at the time. Michael dukakis. This storm did for his popularity in massachusetts what sandy did for Chris Christie in new jersey. His popularity stratospheric. On tv for three days and yet just a few months later in the democratic primary for govern nor of ma ma in 1978 he was defeated by a conservative democrat ed king. Nearly lost the political career. Spent four years in the political career and came back in 1982. Maybe theres a lesson there for Chris Christie. I dont know. This is my favorite. This is rhode island. This is, you know, that was like two or three days after the storm. I have to tell you something. I have a dream to make a movie, a period picture called blizzard of 78. I dont know what the plot would be but hollywood, call me. Well talk it over. Such an oldtimer. A lot to work with there. Thats all from the weather centerment back to you now. Historical weather center. From the mind of steve k kornac kornacki. Thank you so much. Up next, another fastmoving story. The manhunt for a suspected cop killer under way in california. The San Bernardino county Sheriffs Department updating the situation right now. Well have the latest as we roll on on this busy and snowy friday afternoon. [ male announcer ] you know that guy thats got a ham radio in his basement. He can talk to china, mongolia and all the koreas and he eats velveeta shells and cheese. So who are you calling amateur . Liquid gold. Eat like that guy you know. Liquid gold. For over 75 years people. With geico. Ohhh. Sorry . Directors voice here we go. From the top. And action for over 75 years people have saved money with gecko so. Directors voice cut it . What. What did i say . Gecko . I said gecko . Aw. For over 75 year. laughs. But still trying to keep it contained directors voice keep it together. Im good. Im good. For over 75. uncontrollable lahtuger . What are you doing there . Stop making me laugh. Vo geico. Saving people money for over seventyfive years. Gecko dont look at me. Dont look at me. More breaking news now on the cycle. The San Bernardino Sheriffs Department announced no progress two days in to the massive manhunt for the a former naval reservist and fired lapd officer linked to a murderous strpree. Christopher dorner accused of killing three people and declared war on the entire police department. Headquarters remains on lockdown. Nbcs mike taibbi in los angeles for us with the latest. Whats new, mike . Reporter well, not a whole lot new in pinpointing where dorner is or might be. Mcmann had the quote that he could be anywhere. They have no idea at this point whether hes far north in the big bear area where his burning truck was found late yesterday afternoon or whether hes down in san diego where he allegedly tried to steal a boat to get down south out of american waters and hard to say. There have been reports all over the place and just to give you an idea of how jumpy Law Enforcement are, i mean all over, this is a search that while its kind of an allhand search, not no focussed on any one area, i got a text of an attorney, takes serious cases and said that they have been retained by a third person claiming to have been fired on by police because he was driving a truck similar to them. That of Christopher Dorner and this individual, described by the attorney has a 38yearold surfer dude, a thin white male while the suspect, of course, is 6 foot, 250 pounds and said in the town where two elderly women were fired on, the same kind of thing happened. The rams rammed the suspects fire and then opened fire. He was not hit. Expects to be filing a suit by late this afternoon. Big bears about 100 miles or more to the north and east of where we are right now. San diego. About 130 miles to the south. Along the border, as well. This is an individual whos trained, trained as a sniper, trained in military tactics. He may have weapons as big as a 50caliber weapon were told which fires fiveinch rounds and can pierce a vehicle, as well. The police approached where the search and in vehicles with full armor and right now no specific idea on where he is or might be. Hes been on the run now for a full 24 hours since the murder of the two Police Officers and as the sheriff said could be anywhere at this point. Thanks so much. Joining us now is adam lankford, assistant professor of criminal justice at the university of alabama, author of the myth of martyrdom what really drives suicide bombers, rampage drivers and other self destructive killers. Thank you for joining us. Hi, thanks for having me. Sure. You make a link between people like Christopher Dorner in l. A. And suicide bombers like, you know, jihadists in afghanistan saying that the cause is really incidental. These are just people who dont want to live anymore. Sure. Well, dorner claims to be waging war on america. And he claims to be fighting against perceived injustices in the system. But in the u. S. , we realize and some of it appears in the manifesto and realize thats not really going on. Theres a lot of people who see injustice and theres something deeply wrong with an individual like this and, in fact, in his manifesto he acknowledges that hes basically given up on self preservation. Felt like hes already dead. That he died years ago and that now hes lashing back at people he feels have persecuted him. We see very similar themes with suicide terrorists but the strange thing is we havent similarly recognized that just because they spout rhetoric about injustices and waging war thats not a true motive also. You also write that the differences between mass killers and suicide terrorists lie in how theyre shaped by cultural forces and which destructive behaviors they seek to copy. What sort of cultural forces are you talking about and is there something about American Culture that has led to this situation of Mass Shootings . In general, theres different forces. Theres pop gran da, terrorist propaganda and instructs suicide bombers and other suicide attackers in the middle east and elsewhere on how to act and one of the things that propaganda says is act like a sacrificial hero. Act like a holy warrior so looking at the rhetoric in the suicide notes of people like that, you have to dig deeper to get at the true motives unlike cases of Christopher Dorner, like the Virginia Tech shooter, like the columbine shooters. They actually acknowledged some of their problems and sometimes fess up to being suicidal. I guess the question would be, i mean, we can look at the cases individually and suicide bombers, the motives and people reaching the end of the line, you know, domestically here and do Something Like this but got to be cases where there is something to indicate that the perpetrator dozen his or her life. Isnt necessarily doing it out of suicidal for suicidal reasons but looking for glory or something. I can certainly a lot of serial killers come to mind there. Yeah. Well, what i would say is actually a lot of one who is are suicidal are also looking for glory. So its no surprise that Virginia Tech shooter, cho, he sent a martyrdom video he made to news stations for attention despite he knew he would never see that and similar things with dorner and we see similar things with suicide terrorists. Theres a big difference between the tiny percentage of terrorists who blow themselves up for the cause. They are suicidal. And the much larger pool of regular terrorists who are willing to fight, who are willing to risk their lives, who do want fame and glory and also value surviving and hope that they fight, win and live. And i read that youve said that theres a computer test that can immediately determine whether someone is suicidal or not. That seems a little hard to believe. Is that true . Yeah. Well, i guess what id say is youre right and advanced technology always seems a little hard to believe ahead of time and then we become accustomed to it and accept it. This is technology in the testing phases and already remarkable at exposing racial bias, gender bias, things that biases that people want to keep hidden or dont realize they have. Now that test is applied to recognizing whether people are suicidal or not and its more accurate than psychiatrists at making the same diagnosis and the exciting thing is that you could apply this technology to screen people before they purchase weapons, get on planes, before they enter military check points. If i was on a plane, i would like to know if the person next to me was planning on living through that flight or not. Wow. Interesting. And exciting to contemplate. Adam, thank you very much for joining us. Thanks. My pleasure. Up next, a check on how the blizzard impacting travel and what you need to do to get through it. Plus, a surprise guest. I think i know who that is. Mom always got Good Nutrition to taste great. She was a picky eater. Well now im her dietitian and

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