compensating them, 181 years they've been paying former enslavers and the descendants of enslavers following emancipation, following the ab abolition of slavery. we see the same thing in haiti, the french government forcing the haiti government for more than a century to pay compensation for their own freedom that has led to the current destabilization in the nation. the idea that the british government or any former nation that supported enslavement would say, hey, let's -- it's good enough just to remember, while at the same time that they have been extracting and paying former enslavers is patently absurd as well as hypocritical. >> you both have to come back, this is a far reaching discussion. >> it's the perils of cable