we'll get to the fraud trial, but christy, your view on what we have seen. >> it's just open season. that's just not true. it hasn't been true up until donald trump, because donald trump engaged in unprecedented crimes. so, this idea that there's no -- of course they're not, it's not even doj's. they have a special counsel. he went to the grand jury and the grand jury found there was probable cause to show he committed crimes. there are guardrails in place,