i mean, you've just given right there a small snippet of what the cross-examination is going to be. when you attack the credibility of a witness, you take in all of their prior inconsistent statements. i mean, any lawyer cross-examining michael cohen could look like clarence daro just by looking at all of the different inconsistent statements as you just gave a brief explanation right there. so what i think is going to be key in this case, though, is whether the defense decides to call bob costello as a witness. because it was his attorney when he initially was raided and he gave -- he gave them several statements at that time, when he was suicidal -- >> a trump -- >> -- to avoid joil. >> a trump connected lawyer who has his own credibility issues including publicly releasing what would have been attorney/client privileged information but you're saying that that lawyer that represented cohen, you're saying that could be useful as trial,

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