that keeps the supply lines across the western border of ukraine open from poland so nato, number one. number two, we need to equip, organize, provide intelligence, provide cyber overwatch, to the ukrainian armed forces and ultimately, if necessary, in our ukrainian resistance movement. and i think number three, and critically important here, is going to be the economic sanctions. those are going to take time, it's going to be frustrating to watch what happens here, but i think you need all three of those things to work together in order to create real impact on vladimir putin. you need the economics, you need the diplomacy, you need the military piece that lieutenant colonel vinman discussed a moment ago. >> well admiral, it sounds like