>> reporter: so uncle john places a call to el cubano. >> hey, uh, frank? >> yes. >> frank, hey. hey, my name's john. >> reporter: now to set the trap. he'd say nick needs money for a lawyer. >> he seems to think you or fred will help out. he didn't want a [ bleep ] public defender. >> okay. >> reporter: frank tells uncle john he knows nick, but -- >> he's more of an acquaintance. i don't, you know, i really don't have money to help him out. >> reporter: at first frank doesn't seem to take the bait. >> yeah, if i can help him in any way i -- understand, i would but -- >> uh huh. >> i'm sorry. i apologize. i can't. >> reporter: but then, carefully, uncle john reels him in. >> well, he seemed to think that, if somebody didn't reach out to him, he told me not so much you, but he told me to tell, have you tell fred that if he didn't get some help pretty soon he was, he was he was going to the cops, so -- >> okay, give me a call tomorrow and i'll see what i can do to