needs junkies are going to watch. only political junkies are paying attention. but i guess we are going to see. right now, trump's voice is the dominant one. he's the one speaking the loudest. >> but then this is my media question. i was talking about the split screen, but as i said it, is there a split screen? all eyes are on trump, right? if this trial wasn't going on, we don't cover his rallies anymore. we are not sitting outside mar- a-lago. every news truck in the greater new york area is sitting outside that courthouse, and i wonder -- how is that going to impact campaign coverage? >> maybe biden should read the transcript of proceedings every night. >> is been using it a bit. i just hope he takes this opportunity that he has, biden, to do something good, and to express -- look at me. i'm out on the campaign trail, because i'm not in a courtroom because i have committed crimes. >> you are also talking about

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