and i feel like sometimes, newsrooms are forgetting that we are not in a pre-trump culture with pre-trump rules. >> and don't you think the fact that the judge said it cannot be delayed, what you are saying about everyone thought it was going to take so long to pick these jurors, and today, they tried -- yeah. >> donna, let's talk about the split screen that brian referenced sort of at the top of the hour. you got donald trump sitting in a courtroom. trapped in a courtroom. a guy who never abides anybody else's rules, and joe biden is out there on the campaign trail. do you think these two visuals, the side-by-side, are going to impact independence and undecided voters? >> i do gets cumulative. so it's this, plus everything else that is going on. one thing i want to say about donald trump in the courtroom -- remember, he's not a morning person. he's got to get up earlier than

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