he's going to court. that's what happens when he goes to court? we all show up with our cameras. when he is at rallies, we don't air them, we say those rallies are filled with lights. he goes to court, we all show up, he stands in the courthouse steps where he gives the press conference, and it is basically another rally speech and we take every word of it. >> i will take an unpopular opinion about justice -- in the new york civil fraud trial. he allowed donald trump to speak, and that was a mistake, i think we should never treat donald trump differently, and i think that he got specialized treatment when he even entertain the idea of him being able to say anything in his closing arguments during that trial. i think the problem is, and i think i really want people to understand, because we struggle with this in the media. do you feed the beast? are you giving the fire, the congregation oxygen by covering him, but do you a disservice, and not covering it? the stuff that comes out of his