trump a free man. katie, a lot of us thought that we could get the ruling on the immunity claim by tonight. but we are still waiting. it's not surprising from this court? >> i don't know that it is surprising. what was interesting is when you listen to the hearing, all three judges expressed a tremendous amount of skepticism about trump's argument, his lawyers argument that he was immune. but they all came out from different angles. so i suspect that what is going on is that they decide how they are going to rule, they are trying to figure out how much commonality there is, will we see one argument that is all three of the judges in -- but the judges are writing their own opinions with different takes, or variations on what is going on? and do they want judge chutkan to weigh in on any questions, which is another thing that can bring some part of this. is very world in which the district court should have to decide on something like whether or not donald trump was acting in his official