decide to remove troops by that august 31st deadline. or continue to try to evacuate not only u.s. citizens but afghan collaborators with the military, u.s. ngos and other entities who are targeted by the taliban. with the need to protect u.s. troops on the ground after we have lost u.s. service members totaling 13 here. >> you have the president communicating about the final exit, we spoke earlier about the tenuous relationship that the u.s. will have with the taliban. how do you explain that about-face to americans? >> i think the american public is sick and tired, and they have been sick and tired for 18 years about this. and it took way too long for us to get out of their. it was a mission that we should never have taken on, nation building, it never works and has never worked in the history of the world, when someone comes in and tries to build a nation on someone else.