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>> very traditional, brian. i don't think that it's going to capture the public's imagination and attention just because it is kind of dry constitutional law work. i mean even i -- and i taught constitutional law for 20 years. i tend to think this is going to be, you know, not the most exciting thing. they're going to have three people who are going to say, hey, this is an impeachable offense. they're democratic wins. one will be a republican saying this is not an impeachable offense. then i think it moves to really the ultimate question. what's the house going to do? what are those articles of impeachment going to look like if they're drafted? how many are they? are they going to include the mueller stuff? and today we had a twist in that because people like me have been saying, look, ukraine's really simple. stripped down, go fight, bring that forward as fast as you can. but a judge in d.c. today in the

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