kind of chaos candidate, and she does have a remarkable and i think debate moderators ought to ask her about this. she has a remarkable flunsy with russian and syrian talking points, but i think that secretary clinton made a pretty explosive charge -- implied a pretty explosive charge that was then confirmed by one of her spokesmen that congresswoman gabbard is who she was talking about, and i think it needlessly elevated gabbard's profile. i think that was a self-inflicted wound, and i think it was unwise for secretary clinton to do that. >> well, if it's not a mess, it will do until the mess gets here. tom nichols, thank you for your candor and for coming on. coming up for us, yet another consequential week, as we said n this presidency. jon meacham at long last will