talking about that. so they are -- and they had a couple of conference calls with reporters today too. so, so far really how the president is approaching impeachment has all been through the political apparatus. they aren't so prepared for it at the white house, but on the political front, they are -- they are pushing back much -- in a pr way, in a very public relations type of way. >> our thanks to our big three for rising to the challenge. this was sobering stuff to start a new week with. tonight carol leonnig, retired general barry mccaffrey, anita kumar, thank you for coming on with us. coming up tonight, as the president battles with congress over this whistleblower complaint, and now another one, he is dealt a legal loss that could result in his tax returns being seen. a reporter who has been closely following this case joins us next. and later, how mitt romney may be the new face of the resistance within the republican party. "the 11th hour" just getting started on this monday night.