three and a half years. >> it's so long. it's so long for -- it seems like a leap. it might come down in the middle. what is that? the defense attorney is undermining the credibility by asking for that date. the judge isn't going to consider the politics. but she will be aware that trump has got three other cases to go. so, that will be part of her consideration. simone, it makes sense for this to be the first case. maybe not in january, but in early 2024 well, before the election. dave bragman. >> what about georgia? tomorrow mark meadows is going to this evidentiary hearing in georgia. he's basically arguing that, i think it's crazy. we will see what happens. i used to be a federal employee. i never thought that we --