another nine republicans came out as soft no's against him, pressing for further concession, further rules changes, that would empower run of the mill, rank and file, republican members at the expense of the speakers' power. and in the last hour or so, we saw the growth, the less influential than it used to be but fairly significant outside conservative group come out with recommendations that appear to be also urging members to vote against kevin mccarthy here. so there's not the sense of momentum that we would like to see if you are kevin mccarthy or one of his allies going into this vote tomorrow. but as you said, the vote will go on. and on and on and on. until someone can get to 218. he is still the closest of any member. just not as close as he needs to be to get across the finish line. >> so congressman, as garrett laid out, we have the hard no's and the soft no's, but how is it a win for any of the republicans to potentially throw the entire caucus into chaos? >> well, lindsey, this is the