and he also said he was nervous and paranoid about his dad's demeanor when he decided to contact federal authorities. he's talked about googling how do you turn somebody in. what do you make of a testimony, and how big a deal is this? >> what a challenging thing for jackson so ultimately do, but it's something that a lot of the families and people connected to these insurrectionists are dealing with across the country. and it's a pattern of behavior that investigators on the january 6th committee are also looking closely at, trying to better understand what per swalded and propelled these people to ultimately become essentially radicalized and breach security at the capitol. that is, again, you know, something that's a little bit overlooked in terms of the broader scheme of what the committee is doing right now, but they are really trying to understand the mind-sets of these people in order to prevent another january 6th from