likelihood that it would, the russians throwing cold water on it, but if it were, it's big deal. you don't want to have a summit at the barrel of a gun. president biden doesn't want to give anybody reason to think this is another unit where you're trading away something under threat of force. on the other hand, he would be showing he'd go the last distance for peace and that he would do whatever he could to find diplomatic solution short of abandoning the principles that ambassador taylor just talked about. >> and the information we're getting again, evelyn, to your point about intelligence, nbc news confirming the u.s. is warning, russia wants this list of dissidents, journalists, to kill or kidnap. i want to play what national security adviser jake sullivan said act how this will make this conflict even worse than many people realize. take a listen. >> it will cost the lives of ukrainians and russians, civilians and military personnel alike, but we also have intelligence to suggest that there will be an even greater