means to be able to cross state lines. what are the fears among medical providers for women who don't have the means or the opportunity to leave the state? >> well, chris, it's very concerning. if you're one of the 7 million women of child bearing age in texas and you need this form of health care, you will, in fact, need to travel out of state at your own experience. we know that many people, especially young people and people of color, don't have the ability to do this, the logistics and the cost make it impossible for them. so, again, it's quite concerning to think about what could potentially happen. and if the federal courts allow this law to stand, it's very likely that other conservative states near texas are going to move to pass similar laws in the coming months. chris, if the desire is fewer abortions, expanding access to health care, sex education in schools, and easy access to contraceptives are what allow for that, not making access to medical treatment illegal. >> and you know, jen, we only