women in uniform first. >> it was the first time -- thanks to the moderators, moved international policy and leadership of this country, in terms of commander in chiefdom. let me ask you about the fight in the democratic party. i'm looking at all the establishment figures, people i normally like, john kerry, joe biden, hillary clinton, you go down the list, they all is up supported the war in iraq. why were they hawks? the party is not hawkish, why are so many of the leaders hawks? >> i point to two things. one is, you have the foreign policy establishment and the military industrial complex in washington that carries such a huge amount of influence over both parties. >> is it campaign contributions? >> there are -- >> why are politicians so hawkish? >> there are campaign contributions, the influence these contractors have in this pay to play culture, this corrupt culture in washington, but you also just have people who don't understand foreign
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