i'm sure you can attest to much more. >> but sometimes he was -- -- on tuesday. let's go right to columbus, indiana. are you seeing an energizing of democratic voting? >> absolutely. we're also seeing a shift, reverend, with independents, white males specifically who are voting democratically. we're seeing a shift in the suburbs. i think the at the nor and tone that this administration has set has caused this shift in midwestern states and towns and people are saying enough is enough. they certainly don't know what the next president may look like, be like, or sound like, but i think that there's

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