nikki haley during that interview, but she did not rule out supporting donald trump. she said that she would allow the caucus goers to decide, but notably when christian walker pressed her about who -- whoever won the caucus. she said, quote, it will depend. and so, what we have seen this cycle is that endorsements do not carry as much weight as they previously had. for example, governor ron desantis received some big endorsement from the state from folks like the republican governor, kim reynolds, and also the evangelical kingmaker, bob vander plaats. and still, he is pulling in third place, in aren't -- des moines register media kuempel. so that gives you a sense of how voters feel about endorsements. and certainly as we have been talking to them they say it doesn't matter, it's about the candidates, and who they like best. and so, those endorsements do not appear to be moving the needle quite as much this cycle. rev? >> all right, thank you, nbc's priscilla thompson in iowa. joining me now, jaime harrison,
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