Republican in this body it is our obligation to our constituents to do everything we can to prevent the majority leader from funding obama care. And then in almost the same breath, cruz had had the gall to accuse democrats of pushing the country to the brink. There is a tendency in this town towards brinksmanship. I wished the majority leader had not said he continues to use the threat of a default to engage in brinksmanship. Its a blatant attempt to stop democrats from funding the government and funding obama care at the same time. It wont work, and even some other republicans admit it. I cant imagine filibustering the bill i like from the house. The answer now in the senate by those who propose this strategy is to filibuster the very bill they said they wanted. Its not just other republicans attacking the tea partys radical agenda. 59 of americans say they oppose a plan to shut down the government and stop paying the nations bills in order to defund the new health care law. Just 19 support the idea. President obama knows it, and hes ready to fight for it. This is an interesting thing to ponder. That your top agenda is making sure 20 Million People dont have Health Insurance. And youd be willing to shut down the government and potentially default for the first time in United States history because it bothers you so much that were actually going to make sure that everybody has Affordable Health care. Well, let me say as clearly as i can, it is not going to happen. We have come too far. Weve overcome far darker threats than those. We will not negotiate over whether or not america should keep its word and meet its obligations. Were not going to allow anyone to inflict economic pain on millions of our own people just to make an ideological point. And those folks are going to get some health care in this country. Weve been waiting 50 years for it. The clock is ticking. The government shuts down in seven days. The senate will take a crucial vote to avoid that on wednesday. But tea Party Lawmakers are playing games in washington. In order to attack this president and take away joining me now is congressman mcdermott from washington and joan walsh. Thank you both for coming on the show. Thanks. Good to be here. Congressman, let me go to you first. The house has passed a bill defunding obama care. What will the senate do now . Throw it in the waste basket. Theyre not going to respond to that kind of thing. They are going to pass a budget resolution to continue the funding of the government, send it back to us without that on it. And it is going to be voted on in the house. The house will have to make their decision some time later this week as to whether they want to shut down the government or not. Im afraid theyre going to do it. Joan, that is my fear. And i was struck by the president s statement that we played. That you really to make an ideological point and a partisan point, youre willing to for the first time in the history of this country, default the country to stop people 20 million americans from getting health care. I mean, are we really at that point where we are so political and so ideological in this country and hate this president so that they will default the government . I think we are at that point. I dont know if theyll get away with it, but were at that point. There was a gq profile of senator cruz today. Something talked about was that some of us sit around, were reasonable people and say what is their agenda . What do they want to accomplish . What do they want to get done . And ted cruz is quite clear. This is what he wants to get done. Obstruction is not an accident or a byproduct. Obstruction is the point. Repealing is the point. They want to repeal obama care. They want to repeal the 21st century. They want to go back and repeal the 20th century. Theyre gunning for Social Security and medicare and new deal protections of workers. They really want to send us back to a day when women were in the kitchen, where workers didnt have protection, where there were no wage protections. And of course there was no guaranteed Health Insurance. Now, they want to eradicate the great society, the new deal, all of that. And theyre digging in and they dont care if they ruin the country to do it. You know, congressman mcdermott, former republican senator judd greg is slamming his own party for his extremism in this shutdown fight. Let me show you this. He says most americans these days are simply ignoring republicans and they should. The selfpromotional babble of a few has become the mainstream of the republican political thought. It has marginalized the influence of the party to an appalling degree. This ask a former republican senator stating that about his own party. But the real threat is that that group may be able to be enough to shut the government down if we can pressure them or convince them whatever way becomes available in the congress to really stop this that would inflict so much pain on so many americans. Reverend, i think what weve got here is a situation where they are going to run the string out. They already started it by trying to reduce food stamps. 20 billion in cuts on food stamps wasnt enough. They went to 40 billion. Right. Now theyre going to try and take away the health care for people who are already beginning to get it from the president s plan, and they are going to push it to the point where theyre going to have to have the public come back three or four days later and say are you people crazy . You go back there and get this country back on its feet. They simply believe that they can convince the people if they keep pushing hard enough and the people are not dumb. The people see through this as judd gregg has already said. The people have already rejected this bunch. I think, joan, as much as one wants to see them politically hurt themselves, the pain that it will cause veterans and others that would suffer with a Government Shutdown as well as the denial of life insurance, none of us even those of us that want to see their political demise since theyre so narrow minded, want to see that at the expense of American People. We dont. Although it may be where were headed. I feel like its bizarreo day where ted cruz is depicting this as its harry reids fault or Barack Obamas fault if we default or shut the government down. Because they wont give up obama care. He also does this neat rhetorical thing where he calls it a bill as though it is not the law of the land passed by congress, upheld by the Supreme Court. Right. And then ratified again in a way in the 2012 election where the guy who wanted to end it was defeated soundly. And so to think the American People are stupid enough that theyre going to think, oh, yeah, it is Barack Obamas fault he wont give up funding obama care, thats why the government is shutting down. The public sees through that. Its clear who theyre going to blame. Congressman, i think thats the most insulting to me to the intellect of the American Public for them to really hold this country hostage, in effect, to say in political hostage to say you either do what i want despite the fact i lost in the house, lost in the senate on the bill, lost in the Supreme Court, and lost in general election. And by the way, its not me, its him doing it. Like were stupid on top of everything else. You know, they voted on this 42 times in the last three years. And you would think somewhere in there they would have got a glimmer of understanding, but i really do believe , rev, they cant read polls. The polls say the president has been supported. Both in the election and one done yesterday by one of the big newspapers. There is no question that the people are behind the president of the United States. And yet they keep running their head into the wall. It really is a crazy situation. Congressman Jim Mcdermott and joan walsh, thank you for your time tonight. Thanks for having me. Coming up, the epic republican misstatements about obama care. Well investigate the toxic group of right wing extremism and big money coming together to distort the truth. Plus here comes sarah palin. Shes hammering john mccain and talking about cannibal elephants. Huh . Well have to explain that one. And an american crisis president obama is fighting to fix. The Justice System targeting minorities. Our special series, criminal injustice, begins tonight. Also friend or foe, i want to know. Email me. Reply al is ahead. [ man ] this isnt my first career. But it might just be my favorite. [ female announcer ] welcome to the new aarp. 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No, the Horror Stories have not come true. After four years of fear mongering, four years of republican scare tactics like this. We were obama care will be a big job killer. It is killing jobs. It is causing more and more people not to be hired. This could destroy the 40hour work week. The obama care death panels are in fact alive and well. Of course there are death panels. Your Health Care Decision should be decided in your doctors office. Not a washington office. No one has the right to step between you and your doctor. Puts bureaucrats in charge of medical decisions. We dont want to put the government and bureaucrats between a doctor and a patient. Thats a job killer, theyre getting between you and your doctor. None of it is true. None of it. But only eight days before open enrollment begins, the gop big money is flooding in to try and scare americans. Joining me now is wendell potter, a former Health Insurance executive who knows the industry from the inside. Hes the author of deadly spin. Wendell, thank you for joining me. Thank you, reverend al. Now, you recently wrote, wendell, about scare tactics in an effort to stop obama care. And im quoting you. You said quote, having played a role in similar campaigns designed to mislead the government in hopes of defeating legislation, i know how frantic the antiobama care folks must be right about now. Now, a lot of people are confused about the law. How are the opponents trying to mislead the public, wendell . Well, theyre trying to mislead the public because they still have a very short window of time to mislead us until the law becomes more of a reality than it already is. Already about 100 million americans have benefitted from the Affordable Care act. About how many . About 100 million. Have already benefitted . How have they benefitted . Absolutely. For one thing, people who are on medicare are getting help with their prescription drugs and Preventive Care for many cases. Young people are able to stay on their parents policies until theyre 26 years old. That happens to be a benefit to my household. My daughter was able to go back on our policies. When you look at the population, people who are young and elderly, many of us have been able to benefit. And many more of us will in just a few days. Now, wendell, lets look at some of these myths. Because were eight days away from open enrollment starting. And people really need to know. And theyre not all policy wonks. So when they say its a job killer, thats wrong. Many experts have pointed out there will be little or no impact on jobs. They claim government will come between you and your doctor. Theyre wrong again. The Affordable Care act doesnt set up a governmentrun system. In fact, the law comes between you and your Insurance Company charging you more money. And their favorite claim, the death panels that will decide when you die. That couldnt be farther from the truth. The socalled death panel is a committee to congressional oversight and approval to reign in soaring cost of medicare. Nothing to do with your life. But these are the kinds of things they are using all kinds of money as the president said billions to try to pr propagandize. These are the same tactics used to develop and implement during my years in the insurance industry. Theyre intended to try to change peoples opinion and make people afraid of the Affordable Care act. So that they will agree with the Insurance Companies and their benefactors who those who are wanting to have fewer regulations. They want us to think this is overreach by the government. Its all about politics. And its protecting their profits. You said that. But let me show you something that really bothered me. And ive been very passionate about this issue. And i did an interview on the show last week with the Tea Party Congressman. And i think this says it all. Watch this. What people dont understand, congressman, is how we pass laws the Supreme Court upholds and you guys come in and say were not going to fund it and even worse, if money goes there well shut the whole government down. We thought we lived in a democracy. Come on, congressman, thats not what this countrys supposed to be about. Al, just a reminder. This isnt a democracy. Its a republic. Now, anyone knows this is a democratically elected republic. A democracy. Thats how we choose who represents us. For him to say that and just totally put aside the principles of democracy is about as blatant as you can get on live television. Youre exactly right. And it also kind of gives you a hint at what some of these people are really wanting. Theyre wanting to really establish an ol gar ki in the country where big money interests get to call the shots. And they have in many cases. Thats why it taken us a hundred years to get this reform were about to get. Wendell potter, thanks for joining us. 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