lenny curry. mayor curry, the numbers look dire. what have you seen this morning, any signs of hope that maybe these peaks will start to -- i guess the curve can dip. what can you share with us. >> hey, chuck, it has been awhile. wish we were having a conversation about a better subject. look, it is spreading, the variant is spreading in our state and jacksonville now. we know the strongest tool is for people to get vaccinated. i along with other leaders are messaging get the vaccine. in regular communication with hospital leadership and ceos, they're stressed, strained, doctors, nurses, administrators. and this is largely unvaccinated people. we can solve this and navigate this if people get the vaccine. >> what are some -- have you found an effort that works, have